General Chat

It looks to me that you are the one who is trying to stir things up, Carrie, lol

Especially with your most recent post on that other 'innocent' thread.

Or its a good wind up which I've fallen for - if so, I appreciate wind ups, lol - so well done if that's the case :-)

I agree with you Carrie but I havent seen Eldrick ever do that.
Colin on the other hand started a thread today WHAT MR WIPER SHOULD KNOW IS THIS..which is taken over from another thread and aimed at Eldrick
and then we have this one!

Carrie, I hate that too just because I just cannot keep up anymore. lol

Carrie :-), may I ask what difference you see with someone 'defending their beliefs' and 'dog with a bone'?

Surely people have the right to respond to further comments made in a discussion?

GG, I thought you did a fine job of expressing yourself :-)

Carrie, I agree, I really dislike when people make pointed/snide remarks or post "innocent" threads which have a different meaning. I've seen that happen quite a few times on GR.

ok.

I agree - it happens a lot for reasons known only to the authors themselves.

Well I am afraid that I vehemently dispute that I indulge in snide comments or innuendos. If I have something to say, I will say it quite openly. If you are suggesting this, please point me to somewhere where I have done this.

I keep repeating this, but I never ever launch into a personal attack on anyone - it must be pointed out, though, that others don't extend that courtesy in this direction and then they whinge and whine when it gets returned. Defence is allowed, even on GR!

If, however, you are suggesting that snide comments and innuendo are used in posts, then I agree wholeheartedly that they are and I find it reprehensible when that occurs.

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you put it so much better than me - I just couldn't find the right words to express myself clearly

I always say that with freedom of speech comes responsibility. Just because people 'can' post anything shouldn't mean that people should post anything.

Besides, although we have freedom of speech, some comments are in fact illegal.

Also it has amazed me that in the past when some people have quoted free speech in defence of something controversial that they have posted, they think it is their right to let their comments go unchallenged and want to deprive other people of their free speech to object to it. I always found that bizarre,

Im afraid you are going to have to give me an example, Carrie. PM it if you want......

If someone posts an opinion on something then they should expect others of a different opinion to come along and have there say.

We don't all think the same - we are individuals

Hi Carrie :-)

Eldrick does have strong opinions but so do a lot of people on this site :-) I personally don't think there is anything wrong with having a strong opinion and defending your beliefs.

If someone posts something controversial, then they must expect that it could be challenged.

I would hope that 'both sides' would not let the debate get personal and show respect for each other even if they don't respect the person's views.

I would also expect/hope that if someone came out with something completely unacceptable that people would challenge it strongly. ie racist, sexist, bullying comments etc

Oh.

Well, I'm not sure what in particular you are referring to, but I do feel strongly about certain things, thats for sure.

Its funny in a way that the people who post continuously about sugary things dont get any stick, lol - but because I stand my ground about racism, bigotry and followers of woo, I dont half get some grief, lol

Kind of throws the free speech arguments clean out of the window, eh!

Carrie, Im not sure I understand what you mean - are you saying that it is expected that I add to certain threads...because I like stirring things up...?

I need you to clarify it before I can answer, sorry.

"If one speaks openly and expresses an opinion on a subject
others do not a gree with, one becomes politically in-correct"

or..
If one speaks openly and expresses an opinion on a subject
others do not agree with, one becomes a do gooder or a member of the pc brigade!


It works both ways

Yes, it seems to have been turned into a personal thing again.

Does freedom not also include the right to challenge an assertion?

Why is finding racist and intolerant dogma offensive dismissed as being politically correct?

Does freedom to express a view not accept that some people may have an opposing one?

If you value freedoms so much, you may wish to dwell on the fact that the recent societies to outlaw the expression of an opposing view or to challenge an assertion were not, in fact, free societies at all.

afraid?

marginally more tolerable than terrified

THATS LIFE

im afraid