General Chat

I too watched this programme, aswell as the others in this series, and all the other series. I had no problem with the calves being killed, nor any other animals on previous programmes. It was actually Janet Street Porter that reared these animals and had them killed, not Gordon Ramsey.
From the onset of this series, it was made clear to the viewer that these animals were to be reared and slaughtered. Indeed, the 'slaughter scene' was shown late in the programme, and a warning was given after a break, and before it recommenced, that it would contain scenes of slaughter. Surely then, for any who like the rest of the programme, but wouldn't like to see the slaughter of the animals, it was an opportunity to turn off/over etc.
Janet Street Porter did say the lesson she had learned from it all was that in future she would only buy meat from happy animals. Bearing this sentiment in mind, along with Hugh Fearnly Whittingstall's programme re battery reared hens and eggs, I have to agree with T.O.R, in hoping it will stop people buying mass-produced inhumanly reared meat.
I think, and it is only my opinion, that we have to be realistic, when it comes to such things. These animals, and I love all animals, are reared to feed us, have been for hundreds of years, and unless we go down the road in a future where we all eat reconstituted food, as they do in space, these animals will continue to be bred for this purpose.
We can do our bit, as Janet Street Porter said, and buy happy meat, bought from a proper butcher, and not massed produced/mass sold as sold by the high street supermarket.
I hope I have not caused offence,as this was not what I intended. The only person who should be offended at this, should be Mr. Tesco et al, for me encouraging people not to buy meat from a supermarket
Julia in Derbyshire

Just scan read this thread.

I watched the F Word last night and had no problem with the slaughter house scenes.

How many times have we heard animal activists tell us that animals sense they are going to slaughter and panic - causing themselves injury. Scenes like the calves last night and Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall recently disprove this propaganda for what it is.

As Sue says if the animals have a good life ............

Hopefully these programmes will go some way to stopping people buying mass-produced inhumane reared meat.

There is also the argument that if you're not willing to kill something you shouldn't be prepared to eat it - but I accept that is probably going to far for most people.

T.O.R. ;o))

Aaaah Muffy but if they were your animals you would probably feel differently.

If you are shovelling expensive feed into beasts (no matter how cute they are) you soon have to realise the asset before you go bankrupt!!!

That sounds harsh but it's true. The kids always took full part too, they looked after their own particular animals and actually went to slaughter with them from very young ages. I think it taught them to respect their charges and make them as happy as possible whilst they were alive.

It's a real privilege to raise animals and keep them healthy and happy.

I hope this makes sense :-((

Sue xx

I've got nothing whatsoever against it Sue. I understand it's the way of things.......It's just not something I can stomach watching that's all.

I agree it does taste nice though lol xx

Sorry Muffy,
We raised, slaughtered and noshed our way through all our beasties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They had a pampered life and a quick death.

They tasted great too!

Sue xx

Hee hee"" I look down on HIM, because he is middle class..........I look up to HIM because he is Upper class""


Hee Hee............I know MY place.........LOL

So it was!!......

ooops!! showing my upper class preferences there..LOL
Bob

The Good Life Bob lol xx

AH! To the Manor Born!!

no that wasnt it! ......what was it that turned their garden into a smallholding?

Bob

another thought....we'd have to keep a few cows to mow the countryside. lol

I always check out BBC news and the Ram story just struck me the other day lol.

I went to find it to post it here and by chance it linked to the bull story lol

Pauline...errmmm you may be right after all to watch out for feral cows your garden......you may need to watch out for bulls in particular:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7506584.stm

You haven't got a swimming pool have you? lol

Pauline, do you have any cows living in your garden at the moment? lol If not, I don't think you need to worry about the feral ones. :-)

But keep your house locked up at night....it's the sheep you need to watch lol

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7506297.stm

I agree with you Red Squirrel:-))
I watched a wonderful Video called "Earthlings" it was shocking in places but very educational.

Hi Pauline, I think the population of animals would be smaller but they would exist. :-)

There would be people who would let them live on their land. There would be safaris/zoos to house them.

To let a particular animal die out because we did not need them would be so very stupid and small minded of us.

The Earth does not belong to us although we like to think it does. :-) There's room enough for more than one species.

Only because were use to it:-) But I agree tea without Milk!YUCK!!

errm don't we need them for milk? :-)

Cows Existed before they were farmed,they managed well enough then,they would do again;-))

Most of us don't eat humans ;-) - does that mean we don't exist? ;-)

Thats so negative, roxanne. You are just as GOOD!

:-)