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The low Police Comissioner vote

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Mauatthecoast

Mauatthecoast Report 17 Nov 2012 13:57

Quite agree with all you say Paula. :-)

I also read that even if you had a parking fine from as long ago as 1970s you couldn't stand for PCC position.....but greedy ****** mps can fgs. :-S......I despair :-|

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 17 Nov 2012 14:01

Paula+ Think I agree with everything you have said. I don't think it is any coincidence that we had 3 by-elections and a Bristol Mayoral election on the same day and percentages were lousy in all of them.

There is a point here that needs exploring. If someone has been found guilty of fiddling expenses (whether or not they have paid it back) they should be ineligible for office for the rest of their life, surely. AnnC has made the point about Simon Weston, the Falklands veteran who was keen to run for PCC. What Weston did in his teens seems far less than our Secretary of State for Wales who put dog food on her expenses (greedy bitch!!!). And many of the successful candidates in these elections have done far worse than feeding their greedy bitches at our expense.

Merlin A question I have asked myself as well. Watch this space :-D :-D One vote I know I cannot count on in 4 years time, but think I will take the other 673,408 (if I can get them out). ;-)

Merlin

Merlin Report 17 Nov 2012 14:09

Don,t hold your breath,I,d much prefer the SAS.Sergeant who is in prison for having a "Glock" presentation gun.

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 17 Nov 2012 14:23

Rose You ask how it will all work. What I would do.

Well, first, I would spend a long time consulting. Not easy, because candidates for PCC have held meetings and between none and four have turmed up. Perhaps offer drinks and canapes out of my huge new salary to entice them in.

Second I would draw out on a blank sheet of paper what resourcing (police, police support, buildings, firearms etc) local people want.

Third, I would cost this out to see if it came within budget constraints. If it didn't, I would go back and do a quick consultancy with a sample of the public to see where the "cloth" could be cut.

If it did come within budget (and budgets seem quite generous), I would hand the resource requirement to Chief Constable and get the opinions of him and his senior team. Much of his present profile would hopefully match mine, but some wouldn't.

Action plan with all the necessary recruitment, redundancies, re-training, job sharing etc. Look for funding outside of budget for one off short term initiatives like focus on crime problem areas, computer and systems upgrades, purchase of vehicles and amortisation of buildings suitable for new police stations etc etc.

PollyinBrum

PollyinBrum Report 17 Nov 2012 14:43

@ Mouonthecoast.... Thats me out of the ruuning then. I have had two speeding tickets in the last two years, and been on a speed awareness course. No parking fines though I am a good girl I am ;-) ;-) ;-)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2012 14:51

snap Paula - I've been on that speed awareness course :-D

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 17 Nov 2012 14:55

Oh, Merlin. I am in same boat as Paula+. I had a parking ticket issued in Northampton when I was helping to move in my undergrad daughter to her student house in 2001. So you will not be able to help me in the next round of PCC elections in 4 years.

Are you clean? I would support you. And I think my local sparring partner in S Wales might also join your campaign :-D Brains and beauty ;-)

Kense

Kense Report 17 Nov 2012 16:09

Parking fines are not criminal offences are they?

I believe the candidate disqualifications are where the offences would have merited a prison sentence if committed by an adult.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2012 16:18

never had a parking ticket KenSE and as you say, it's not a criminal offence, even if Traffic wardens treat it as such :-D

the speeding record is removed if you successfully complete the speed awareness course - so no record of that - I am squeaky clean ;-)

PollyinBrum

PollyinBrum Report 17 Nov 2012 16:33

@ AnnC. I am clean but not yet squeaky :-D

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 17 Nov 2012 17:04

If only the would be Police Commissioners had joined GR they could have got lots of info as how to make us vote for them, they missed a trick there :-D

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2012 17:07

they're too busy working out how to fiddle their expenses and what to spend the money on ;-)

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 17 Nov 2012 17:26

:-D :-D Lynda

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 17 Nov 2012 21:07

Spoilt papers is said to be over 4% in one area. The Spoilt-Papers Party could overtake the Lib Dems and come fourth in the next General Election ;-) :-D

Unlike the Lib Dems, they should retain their deposit

Kense

Kense Report 18 Nov 2012 08:49

Going a bit off topic but relevant to some recent posts. Some insurance companies are ignoring speed awareness courses i.e. treating them as convictions.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20328860

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 18 Nov 2012 09:03

Ken One of my pet topics, but note that there is a current thread running about car insurance.

It is a scandal and yet another example of price comparison sites forcing up our premiums. Anything like drifting over the speed limit gives a good excuse to whack up premiums and force us to look elsewhere and donate (indirectly) to a price comparison and switch site. Leeches :-( :-( :-( They suck money out of car insurance companies and they have to suck our blood in turn :-(

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Nov 2012 15:10

Paula - you'll no doubt be pleased to know that I reported that slur on my character and GR have upheld my complaint and removed the posting - back of the net again!!!!! :-D

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 19 Nov 2012 19:07

Please kerep them coming Ann. It pleases you and absolutely thrills me. ;-) ;-)

PollyinBrum

PollyinBrum Report 19 Nov 2012 19:26

That's so sad John.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Nov 2012 19:50

Hi Paula - nice to see you - tis very sad indeed ;-)