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sheila7 Report 2 Dec 2012 20:14

They have lost my grandmother,phoned parish records to find plot number and they have not got one,so were do we put the pot that we have bought


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Dec 2012 20:26

Oo er. How can they 'lose' the plot number??? Are there any receipts still lurking around in her home?

How about picking a good spot and scattering her no cost to the family. That'll teach 'em!


sheila7 Report 2 Dec 2012 20:34

No Det,she is the only one that does not have a headstone,so my sister and i bought a nice pot with her details on,we have an idea where abouts she was buried,but wanted plot number to make sure we put it in the right place.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 2 Dec 2012 20:40

Is this a churchyard or cemetery?



+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Dec 2012 20:40

Sorry - got the wrong end of the stick :-0

Is it Council or Church run? Not that it would make much difference. The Council might be able to work it out from the date and plots being used at that time. They normally have a map.

♥†۩ Carol   Paine ۩†♥

♥†۩ Carol Paine ۩†♥ Report 2 Dec 2012 20:41

Tricky one, is there anyone who might have been at her funeral?

Ask who was buried in the plot you think belongs to your Grandmother, it may have been wrongly registered to the person who arranged the burial rather than to her


LollyWithSprinklez Report 2 Dec 2012 20:44

That is a tricky one - was this a church burial or cemetery ?

I went to our local cemetery last summer only to find my grandparents graves had both been covered over and the area has become an ashes garden

As they were both buried in a public plot I knew I didn't have much comeback...but what upset me was that no notices had been put up beforehand that this was going to happen

Their small headstones had both disappeared as had all the others in the area

When my father was cremated I had his ashes interred in the same plot as my grandmother (with permission) and had a new headstone with his and grans name placed on the plot again with permission and paid for

Had I known this was going to happen I would have removed the stones myself

The cemetery have assured me that no burials were disturbed when they laid the
area to lawn and I have a memory of where the burials are but am not allowed to mark it in any way

I am sorry if this is not very reassuring for you and hope that you do manage to find your plot number somehow (perhaps a relative has the original) or try to discover if there are any undertakers records

Apologies again for a sorry tale on a Sunday night :-(


sheila7 Report 2 Dec 2012 20:54

It is a cemetery,my mother told me where she was,and it would have been her that did the arrangments as it was her mil,i told them the exact date and where in the cemetery she should be,but nothing ,i have asked 2 that attended the funeral and they told me the same place,it has not been altered in anyway just a large patch where there are no headstones.As we visit mums dads and other g/parents with flowers we decided to buy the pot and then we could also take flowers for her,she is the only one in the plot as she never married,they said i could go and look at the plans but if they can't find her how will i,but maybe i will go,it is council


LollyWithSprinklez Report 2 Dec 2012 21:15

Sheila...It would seem having a look at the plans is your best option if your mother hasn't the details

Whilst you are there check to see if it's possible to place a pot - if as you say it is a large area with no headstones, then when grass cutting takes place the pot will probably be pushed aside

If all else fails why not add her pot to the other g/parents

It is the thought that counts :-)


LollyWithSprinklez Report 2 Dec 2012 21:22

Please don't take offense at this but you say she never married
is it possible she was buried with another name and not the one you knew her by?


sheila7 Report 2 Dec 2012 21:34

No offence taken ,Lolly i have her death certificate so surely she would be buried in that name ?


Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 2 Dec 2012 21:37

Don't know if this has been said and it's only a long shot, but maybe the undertakers might be able to help.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Dec 2012 21:40

Is it a Municipal cemetery? if so the local Council Parks & Cemetery's dept should be able to give you the grave details . Councils usually keep very good records. I was given the details for a public grave for 1907 by the local Council


LollyWithSprinklez Report 2 Dec 2012 21:40

Well hopefully you will find her :-)

BTW hows your lovely little dog now?
fully recovered I hope :-D


sheila7 Report 2 Dec 2012 21:49

Never thought of that Lesley,,shirley i think the last place i phoned was the cemetery dept but will check that,
Yes thanks you Lolly she is fine now and lays on her back alot as if to say look at the size of that scar :-)

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 2 Dec 2012 22:14


Which Town/ County where she is buried...I am sure if someone lives near the council Parks and dept they may help you look.


sheila7 Report 2 Dec 2012 22:26

Sue i only live 2.5 miles from the cemetery,think i will go and look at the plans and asks if someone can go through them with me,so i can point out roughly where she should be.

*$parkling $andie*

*$parkling $andie* Report 2 Dec 2012 22:45

Hubby's dad was buried in 1953 in the local cemetery ,with no headstone.
The council and the sexton were able to direct me to the exact spot of burial.

I had the rights of burial certificate, and knew the row number and grave number, but just asked the council giving details of the death and person responsible for the burial. The Sexton was spot on.

I hope you are able to find the plot.


maggiewinchester Report 2 Dec 2012 22:51

Check whether there is a time limit on the graves.

I have the original receipt for my grandad's first wife's burial in 1924, complete with description of grave and plot number.
I checked with the 'powers that be' that they hadn't changed the numbers (like they do with house numbers), they hadn't.
Went to the burial ground (on the Common, up The Avenue in Southampton).
Found the plot - right number - grave was wrong - looked at name- a bloke was buried there!!

Transpires in the 1960's Southampton decided certain graves only had a 33 year lifespan (excuse the pun)
Goodness knows what they did with Violet's bones. Poor old grandad was still topping up the green glass chippings on the grave from his paltry wages after he'd married my gran! :-0

My ggg grandad's grave is (or was last time I looked) still there in a different part of the burial ground.


sheila7 Report 2 Dec 2012 23:18

Maggie not sure about that will have to check but other g/parents buried before her are still there,, the church yard in our villiage states that we rent the plot for 99yrs