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Janene
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7 Jan 2013 14:10 |
Hi there,
I have been researching my family history for a few years now and have just come across my great grandad was enlisted in the above. This was from Sep 1915 to 1918 where he apparently states he was medically discharged!
I just really would like to know whether he stayed in Australia or came back to the UK?
Frederick Henry Coppard b1883 Tonbride, m1909 Bromley......
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GlasgowLass
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7 Jan 2013 14:20 |
A man named Frederick Henry Coppard appears on the Ausralian Electoral Rols in Swan, Western Australia in 1925.
ThAustralian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Frederick Henry Coppard Name: Frederick Henry Coppard Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1925 State: Western Australia District: Swan Subdistrict: Northam is man was a labourer and there is no one else called Coppard in the household
Also: England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Frederick H Coppard Name: Frederick H Coppard Birth Date: abt 1883 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1968 Age at Death: 85 Registration district: Bexley Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 5a Page: 143
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Janene
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7 Jan 2013 14:25 |
Yes that certainly looks like him! Thank you very much.
I did have that he died in Bexley in 1968? Mmm, wonder when he came back to the UK.
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7 Jan 2013 14:30 |
Do you know his occupation?
A 39yr old man named FH Coppard ( A victualler) travelled fro Australia to London 21 Apr 1921 aboard the Beltana.
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7 Jan 2013 14:59 |
His army service details (41 pages) are on the National Archives of Australia website. Hope the link works!
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=3417548
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Janene
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7 Jan 2013 15:38 |
Thank you for your help, this is amazing and so kind of you all.
Obviously there is a gap from 1925 to 1968 when he died in Bexley,Kent. Where would I need to look for the gap years? Could some-one help with pointing me in the right direction please.
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GlasgowLass
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7 Jan 2013 15:58 |
Hi Janene, There are evidently a few men called Frederick Henry Coppard who were born around the same time. In your opening thread it says that Frederick married in 1909 yet the Australian Military Record from 1915 ( widowed mother Eliza in Kent) states he was unmarried? You seem to know that this man was your g grandfather, meaning that you descend from a child ( your grandparent). Where and when was the child born? I am assuming that it was England before the enlistment in OZ?
Also, a man called Frederick H Coppard married Ellen K Barbour in Rochford 1924.
Another, FHC bc 1885 whose father was called Marshall Coppard. This one died shortly after being discharged from the British Army in 1915.
Are you certain of the birth details and the parents for your FHC?
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7 Jan 2013 16:29 |
Think I am getting somewhere... The man who enlisted in OZ was the son of William and Eliza.
His sister was called Eliza Jane Coppard, married William Yeates in Kent in 1903 She can be found with her mother and her children in Kent but is then found in SWAN, WA from 1916 onwards until her death in 1956
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Eliza Jane Yeates Name: Eliza Jane Yeates Death Place: Western Australia Age: 78 Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Eliza Registration Year: 1956 Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia Registration number: 1360 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
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Janene
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7 Jan 2013 17:45 |
He was married to my grandads mother (whom we fund out when he passed away that she put him up for adoption!). I know that he was to Ethel Harriett Weeden/on in 1909 Bromley but later divorced 1921.... Court for Divorce and Matrimonial Causes, later Su... J 77/1816/6611 Divorce Court File: 6611. Appellant: Frederick Henry Coppard. Respondent: Ethel Coppard. Type: Husband's petition for divorce [hd]. . Divorce Court File: 6611. Appellant: Frederick Henry Coppard. Respondent: Ethel Coppard. Date: 1921 It is so confusing and am finding it hard to find him!!!!
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Janene
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7 Jan 2013 17:59 |
His parents were William and Eliza Coppard.
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Choccy
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7 Jan 2013 18:22 |
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Frederick H Coppard Year: 1964 County or Borough: Bexley Ward or Division/Constituency: Wickham East Street Address: 89 Darenth Road Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/2993 living with Ellen K Coppard
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7 Jan 2013 18:27 |
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England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
Name: Ellen Kathleen Coppard Birth Date: 19 Oct 1900 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1970 Age at Death: 70 Registration district: Greenwich Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 5b Page: 1191
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GlasgowLass
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7 Jan 2013 18:36 |
I see it now. As his sister was in Swan, WA from 1916 onwards, and FHC seems to there at 1925, I can only assume that he was already a divorced man when he returned to the UK ( don't know how far in advance an Australian ER is prepared)
If the man who died in Bexley in 1968, is your g grandfather, then he is the same man who married Ellen K Barbour in 1924 as per info on UK Electoral Roll provided by Choccy.
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7 Jan 2013 18:51 |
I can find three females born to that marriage from 1926 to 1931 in the Bromley registration district.
They can be found here -
http://www.freebmd.org.uk
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Janene
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7 Jan 2013 19:06 |
Thank you so much.
I will look on now with the info you all have given me. ;-) ;-)
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GlasgowLass
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7 Jan 2013 19:09 |
Janene, England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005 about Irene Coppard Name: Irene Coppard Mother's Maiden Surname: Weeden ***** Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1923 Registration district: Bromley Inferred County: Surrey,Kent Volume Number: 2a Page Number: 1000 (click It may or may not be relevant.
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7 Jan 2013 19:20 |
His WW1 Australian records show on entry 13/9 1915,
Born Tunbridge Wells. age 32.
Service number--9561 single.
a fetler?-(foundry)
had been a reserve for 3 years.
Mother -Eliza Coppard -widow -Bromley? Kent. Father - Deceased.
He returned to England 24/6/1917.
Returned to Australia.
Discharged--22 Sept 1919.
He had been in a military hospital in Freemantle for,,,V/Viens and severe conjuncuvitus in both eyes..
He did go to France at some [oint ,he was awarded the WW1 trio of medals...1914/1915.Star,,,,,British and Service medals.
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7 Jan 2013 19:25 |
Some info on sister, Eliza Jane Coppard: 1911 England Census about Eliza Jane Yates Name: Eliza Jane Yates [Eliza Jane Coppard] Age in 1911: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England Civil parish: Bromley County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address: 43 Napier Road, Masons Hill, Bromley, Kent Marital Status: Married Registration district: Bromley Registration District Number: 42 Sub-registration district: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 131 Piece: 3644 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Coppard 59 Eliza Jane Yates 32 Bernard Yates 5 Eva Yates 4
Eliza Jane, children Bernard and Eva together with 22yr old Ellen Coppard travelled to Freemantle. WA aboard the Armadale. They arrived in Westen Australia on 4 May 1913
Husband's death: Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about William James Yeates Name: William James Yeates Death Place: Western Australia Age: 85 Registration Year: 1965 Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia Registration number: 350 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Children from 1911 return Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Bernard William Yeates Name: Bernard William Yeates Death Place: Western Australia Age: 64 Father's Name: William J Mother's Name: Eliza J Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia Registration number: 216/70 Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Eva Yeates Name: Eva Yeates Death Place: Western Australia Age: 50 Father's Name: William J Mother's Name: Eliza J Registration Year: 1957 Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia Registration number: 1807 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
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Janene
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7 Jan 2013 20:17 |
Wow, this is fantastic. Thank you so much :-D
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7 Jan 2013 21:02 |
Have you seen this?
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
(Deceased online)
Cremation Register summary last name Coppard first names Frederick Henry Cremation date 4 Jun 1968 Authority Eltham Crematorium Location Eltham Crematorium (Greenwich) Date of death 28 May 1968
Cremation Register summary last name Coppard first names Ellen Kathleen Cremation date 6 Jan 1971 Authority Eltham Crematorium Location Eltham Crematorium (Greenwich) Date of death 29 Dec 1970
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