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Looking at how many people have M Mns Vcrg next to their names, I think it unlikely that they were all ministers.
Mns could stand for mansions and Vcrg could be Vicarage Lane/Street; so the address would be something Mansions, Vicarage Lane, Llaneddy.

Graham ~ that's one of the family.

Walter WALTERS b1796 & Sarah Reece LEIGH b 1806, married 1828.

One of their daughters......

Mary WALTERS b 10 Sep 1828 Llaneddy, M Mns, Vcrg, Wales
she married John Richard OWEN/OWENS (also from Wales) in Utah in 1856.

Two of their daughters, Margaret & Hannah Owen, married Robert Kerr who is a distant cousin of mine..... Margaret died in 1889, Robert & Hannah married in 1898.

Mary's brother William WALTERS b1835 married Mary Kerr, who is sister of Robert.

The Utah/Idaho etc branches of my tree are very tangled!

Most of this lot don't appear on my GR tree..... that's already a jungle.

I look at submissions to the family search site........ then look for confirmation. I've found some real doozies on there about my own rellies!

The Mormons have a passenger list on CD.....costs pennies......there are also sea voyage logs.....It may be worth asking someone for a lookup....you never know they may be one of the many who get a mention in the logs.

sounded spot on to me :-D

Sounded good to me Huia. Sorry, I didn't see your suggestions until some time after I'd posted.
Would be helpful to know who the lady in question is though.

I was not serious when I suggested Methodist Minister, and Vicarage, they were just the first things that came to mind, and I thought it would keep the thread bumped up for other people to see. Please don't get stuck on the ideas I suggested. :-S

Hi LadyScozz :-)

Llaneddy now LLANEDI is a village in Carmarthenshire, South Wales. It is halfway(ish) between Llanelli to the South and Ammanford to the North, and near to Llannon.

It was once the name of the Parish of the area.

https://sites.google.com/site/llanediparishplacenames/

LadyScozz 30 Mar 2014 10:33

I doubt it.

Do you think a Methodist minister would take his family to Utah & become Mormons?

Google ?

In the 1800's Plenty left these shores looking for an alternative form of religion including Methodist Ministers who became disillusioned with their own form of religion, Utah and Mormonism was one such religion and destination


Roy

Not sure if this helps...

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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Household Information
Street GELLIORGAN
Parish LLANEDY
City
County Carmarthenshire
Country WALES
House Number
House Name
Registration District LLANELLY
Town
Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain
Person 1
First Name DAVID
Last Name JONES
Birth Year 1821
Age 20
Birth County
Gender Male
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 1
Folio 20
Page 12
Piece Number 1379
Person 2
First Name ANNE
Last Name PENDRY
Birth Year 1826
Age 15
Birth County CARMARTHENSHIRE
Gender Female
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 1
Folio 20
Page 12
Piece Number 1379
Person 3
First Name JOHN
Last Name WALTERS
Birth Year 1811
Age 30
Birth County
Gender Male
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 1
Folio 20
Page 12
Piece Number 1379
Person 4
First Name SARAH
Last Name WALTERS
Birth Year 1816
Age 25
Birth County CARMARTHENSHIRE
Gender Female
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 1
Folio 20
Page 12
Piece Number 1379
Person 5
First Name JOHN
Last Name WALTERS
Birth Year 1835
Age 6
Birth County CARMARTHENSHIRE
Gender Male
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 1
Folio 20
Page 12
Piece Number 1379
Person 6
First Name EVAN
Last Name WALTERS
Birth Year 1838
Age 3
Birth County CARMARTHENSHIRE
Gender Male
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 1
Folio 20
Page 12
Piece Number 1379

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Why would he not change religion and go to Utah.

It happened now and it happened then.

Or he could have gone over there to try and save the heathen Mormons!

Not all people in Utah are Mormons. :-D

A morman minister with a vicarage in Wales? :-S

According to my 1868 gazetteer, Llanedy is a parish about 7 miles NE of Llanelly, in Carmarthenshire.

The Calvinist Methodists had a chapel, so perhaps M Mns could be Methodist Minister, BUT, if he went to Utah, it could also be an abbreviation for Mormon Minister, or ? Mormons?

I went in a\ store in Philadelphia and when the assistant realised I was Welsh she asked if we had roads over here now :-D :-D

I agree with the place names

My lot are in the main since about 1910 all from London. Great but where in London do other put, nothing.

So it happens all the time all over. And sadly it is our cousins from across the big pond who are often the worst culprits for this.

And anyone who has ever been to the US and sat and chatted with the locals will laugh out loud at their idea of places. We were in Florida, and often went to a local bar rather than sit in the bar in the hotel, got chatting to the staff who were really lovely and very friendly, but they did ask the obvious question when we told them we lived in London about seeing the Queen! Another asked if we knew anyone by the surname of ........ (was something like Smith!). Bless them :-)

M Mns - Methodist Minister?
Vcrg - Vicarage?

can you give us the name then? hopefully not Jones :-D

I doubt it.

Do you think a Methodist minister would take his family to Utah & become Mormons?

Some of the siblings have birthplaces as....

Llaney Carmarthenshire, South Wales
Llanelli, Carmarthen, Wales

some just have.... Wales!

I think Huia is spot on with her interpretation

I'm in Wales by the way :-D

Could Mns mean Monmouthshire?