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SuffolkVera

SuffolkVera Report 24 Oct 2016 12:50

My son is in a similar position Rollo. His powers that be have gone into panic mode over something that may or may not happen, but he is the one who has to tell people they are out of a job. At the moment he is fighting his board over it. Good luck to you both.

Sharron

Sharron Report 24 Oct 2016 12:33

So you are not one of the Virgin Islands then?

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 24 Oct 2016 11:34

My mother-in-law's favourite poem, Rollo.

And, boy, could she keep her head. A real lady. <3

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 24 Oct 2016 11:30

thank you +++DetEcTive+++, JoyLouise
no, I have not done this before, your hints were very helpful
decided not to be railroaded into anything

all this panic is due to the tier one guys getting the frits about their capital base should sterling collapse and controls be imposed. I have been quite unable to get any info about where we could be headed and am being asked to sign a contract blind! We just provide services so like the pilot fish with whales just have to go with the flow - destinations unknown. Maybe it will blow over.

I have dsicovered that HR are being kept out of the loop 'cos (a) they will be cut the most and (b) seen as "unhelpful".

"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;

If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;

If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;

If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;

If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!"

R.K.

'Emma'

'Emma' Report 23 Oct 2016 13:40

I agree Island, but hey ho here we go again.

Island

Island Report 23 Oct 2016 13:19

Oh.....by the way, Sharron, I'm not off to Bethlehem, I'm thinking more dead donkey :-D

Island

Island Report 23 Oct 2016 13:17

Shouldn't this be a separate thread? :-S

Give it a go - you know you want to :-D

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Oct 2016 12:19

Although you'll need to play a part, the formalities should be handled by HR. They'll be aware of the legalities which might also include a letter to a number of people putting them on notice that they may be made redundant.

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1611

If your employers intend to continue a UK presence, then for goodness sake don't let them send out notices by text or email. They'll only get a bad reputation which could put off any candidates for future job applications.
Treat your staff like Sh**, and that the reputation the company will get

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 23 Oct 2016 12:07

Rollo, have you done this before?

Would you pass the buck up the chain of command?

I would, simply by giving them a table (old name there - database now) similar to this:

Column 1 down: names of staff

Top headings along:

Verbal warnings;
written warnings;
languages spoken;
passports held;
redundancy payments 1k-10k;
RD 10k- 20k;
RD 20k-30k;
RD 30k+
(and so on, if necessary)

They did not mention age so they are being careful as far as they, themselves are concerned. - broken laws, as you mentioned!

Let them see how difficult it can be and ask them what they value more - money saved or ability saved?

DO NOT ADD YOUR NAME TO THE LIST! :-0 ;-)

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 23 Oct 2016 11:48

I often wonder why the board is not full of posts extolling he wonderful world we live in post brexit and just how well it is all turning out.

I have had a text asking me to pick a few dozen people for post brexit redundancy notices to be served by the new year..
.
How should I go about it? Send a text ?

I'm also supposed to "have regard" re any redundancy payments, dismissal rights, retaining key staff with "fluency in modern languages" and on top holders of EU (non-UK) passports are to be retained. (Sounds of broken glass and broken laws).

Funny how human resources are never there when you need them ... texts on Sundays. Some big cheese wannabee this morning has been spooked by the news.

So now for a couple of months I shall have to lie through my teeth that everybody's job is safe. I once worked in Bad Homburg and really don't fancy a second stint.

So I say to myself, keep calm, dig in, don't panic.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 19 Oct 2016 08:35

Two threads started.

One silly, one topical.

Anyone else game to start a thread?

:-)

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 19 Oct 2016 00:06

there is a chain of thought that says , why worry about things that you have no control over?

Live your own life, and let the rest of the world worry about theirs...


having written that , I DO despair about the way that certain regimes only seem to have one purpose...........to destroy others as they have destroyed their own...

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 18 Oct 2016 23:58

Joeva, if you began to post on topical subjects you would, I am sure, find that others have the same concerns that you have.


Joeva

Joeva Report 18 Oct 2016 23:45

I used to look on here as a member of GR quite often, but only look in very rarely of late. Many threads posted here recently have have no interest to me. Yes, I hear you say, why not post something yourself ....... I would indeed, but, my concerns are with the state of the world we are living in, the wars in other countries, the despair of people fleeing to find asylum in safety........ I could go on, but in the meantime I stick to Facebook for lighthearted contacts posts by my family and the Genealogical sites I am a member of on there. Quite frankly I am beginning to question why I continue to pay to be a member of this site :-(

Sharron

Sharron Report 18 Oct 2016 14:42

I don't think it was ever a good idea to put the games and quizzes on a separate thread.

The only thread I go on is this one and I would go on some of the game and quiz threads when they were on here but don't bother to go on to another thread to see them.

Santo Snores like a bandsaw as well Vera.

PatinCyprus

PatinCyprus Report 18 Oct 2016 14:21

Better than none at all JoyLouise. :-D

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 18 Oct 2016 14:19

Reminder to self: don't wait for someone else to do it, start new threads myself. :-D

Mine would vary from serious to silly, as the mood takes me. :-S

PatinCyprus

PatinCyprus Report 18 Oct 2016 14:13

We've lost some great contributors and they haven't been replaced by enough new people coming in.

GR needs to attract new people to keep it going but instead they have left it to a lingering death. New people will look at Announcements and the like and realise it's been a very long time since anyone working at GR bothered putting in any visible input.

GR either admit you are letting this go or do something to save it. :-S

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 18 Oct 2016 13:45

I think it was because of the "chat " sites, (msn,etc) being pulled ,

that sites like this "grew"

the family history side was a bonus.....for some....


Bob

'Emma'

'Emma' Report 18 Oct 2016 13:24

It would take me quite a time to read the threads every morning and
posting.

The debate threads, fun threads etc, also miss those who have
passed away, Daff, BC and others.

I miss Rose and her wise words, poetry threads and even those
who liked to stir the pot occasionally.

I admit I'm not as enthusiastic as I used to be so partly to blame.