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A CONVICT SHIP TO AUSTRALIA???? TIMEWATCH TONIGHT!

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Slinky

Slinky Report 29 Jan 2006 02:42

Not unusual? Well, watch BBC 2 TV next Friday at 9pm. A convict ship taking only women to Australia, left England, in order to populate the New World!! Sounds interesting. Will you be watching? I will. Anne :)))

Slinky

Slinky Report 29 Jan 2006 02:48

The Lady Juliana lay six months in the River Thames while the goals were emptied and the women placed on board. She finally sailed from Portsmouth England on the 29th July 1789 and arrived at Port Jackson on 3rd of June 1790. The Lady Juliana was the first female convict ship to sail to the Colony of NSW and the first sailing of any convict ship since the first fleet sailed in 1788. When the ship was out to sea every man on board took a convict women for his wife. The number of female convicts on board the Lady Juliana varied, but it seems that 244-5 was the number that arrived in NSW. The voyage took twelve months less one day, calling into many ports. While in these ports it was an open ship, and was later to become known, as the 'Floating Brothel'. Before leaving England the good ladies of London donated fifty suits of child linen. This linen was to be used by the mid-wife in the event of there being children born on the voyage. There were seven births and five deaths. At least eight children accompanied their mothers, four of these later came to VDL. Sixty women from the Lady Juliana came to VDL either with their husbands or alone between 1805-1815, of these 27 were first fleeters. On arrival at Port Jackson 114 women were sent to Norfolk Island, others were sent later (194 in all) Many were to marry or live with men who were on the island, or would arrive later, convicts, ex-convicts and soldiers. In November 1791 a group of about 100 couples were married on the island by the Rev. Richard Johnson, no records of these ceremonies survived. Many couples claimed they were married on the island after they arrived in VDL. You will notice that many on the women on the Lady Juliana were what could be regarded a fairly old. There were overall: 51 between the age of 10-19 116 between the age of 20-29 40 between the age of 30-39 15 between the age of 40-49 8 over the age of 50 These women who had survived the terrible conditions in England and a unspeakable voyage first to Port Jackson and then to Norfolk Island, found themselves having to yet again pull up roots after nearly twenty years, and start again in the new settlement of VDL. The records reveal that most of them were wives, mothers, and in some cases grandmothers who went on to make a place for themselves and their families. Their descendants are proud to claim them as their ancestors, despite how they arrived in the Colony. Anne :)))

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond Report 29 Jan 2006 02:50

Yes, saw that advertised - looks interesting. O.H. thinks I should watch the other prog this week about men's bits!! Seen one and you've seen 'em all I told him, but I will probably have a look to give myself a laugh. Don't know if he will watch with me, might give him a complex!

Slinky

Slinky Report 29 Jan 2006 02:52

Good Lord Mary... am not that old chuck...lol... The ship sailed in 1789!!!! And as for coming back... probably next year!! Anne :)))

Slinky

Slinky Report 29 Jan 2006 02:55

PP... yes I agree... seen one you've seen em all... and none are very interesting... Mind you... the male population might disagree...lol... Right... time for beddy byes... nite folks!! Anne :)))

Winter Drawers Ever Near

Winter Drawers Ever Near Report 29 Jan 2006 02:59

Was reading a double page spread about it in the Daily Mail today (sorry yesterday). Looks interesting so will have to watch it. Would be interesting to learn how many of our Australian members can trace their ancestors back to anyone who was on that ship or ones like it.

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 29 Jan 2006 05:01

Hi Anne.Just out of interest.....here is a list of the Female Convicts that were noted, on the Lady Juliana, and there terms Convicts on the Lady Juliana ACTON Sarah 7 ANDERSON Mary 7 ANSELL Mary 7 ARNOLD Mary 7 ATKINS Violetta 7 ATKINSON Mary 7 AYRES Elizabeth 7 BARNES Elizabeth 7 BARNSLEY Elizabeth 7 BARRY Ann 7 BATEMAN Mary 7 BEACH Mary 7 BONE Ann 7 alias Smith BRADY Ann 7 BRAY Susannah 7 alias Gay BROOKS Ann 7 BROOKS Jane 7 BROWN Elizabeth 7 BROWN Grace 7 BROWN Sarah Sophia Ann 7 BUTLER Mary 7 CARTER Elizabeth 7 CARTER Margaret 7 CARTER Sarah 7 CAVENAUGH Mary 7 CHAFEY Mary 7 CHAPLIN Mary 7 CHRISTMAS Mary 7 CLAPTON Ann 7 CLAYTON Mary 7 COTTEREL Elizabeth 7 CURTIS Esther 7 DANIELS Martha 7 DAVIS Mary 7 DAVIS Mary 7 DAWSON Jane 7 DAWSON Mary 7 Alias Bray DORSET Sarah 7 DOWLING Mary 7 EMMES Ann 7 alias J'Amms FARRELL Elizabeth 7 FITZPATRICK Rose 7 FLANNEGAN Mary 7 FORBES Ann 7 GALE Elizabeth 7 GALLAND Ann 7 GEE Hannah 7 alias Teesdale GIBSON Ann 7 GILES Elizabeth 7 GITTOS Mary 7 GOLDSMITH Elizabeth 7 GOMER Sarah 7 GOSLIN Elizabeth 7 GRAHAM Sarah 7 HAGER Ann 7 HANNAWAY Ann 14 HARD'AMAN Ann 7 HARDING Amelia 7 HARDYMAN Elizabeth 7 HAYNES Alice 7 HENDERSON Elizabeth 7 HEYLAND Catherine Life HIGGINS Mary 7 alias Harrold HODDY Rachael 7 HOLLOWAY Elizabeth 7 HOOK Mary 7 HOPPER Elizabeth 7 HOUNSETT Mary 7 HOUSE Sarah 7 HOUSUM Catherine 7 HOWARD Ann 7 ISRAEL Maria 7 IVEMAY elizabeth 7

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 29 Jan 2006 05:04

JOHNSON Mary 7 JOHNSON Matilda 7 JONES Ann 7 JONES Elizabeth 7 JONES Elizabeth 7 JONES Lydia Life JONES Mary 7 JONES Mary 7 JONES Sarah 7 KELLY Sarah 7 KEMP Ann 7 KIMES Mary 7 LEICESTER Elizabeth 7 LEWIS Mary 7 LLOYD Jane 7 MADDOX Grace 14 MANSON Isabella 7 alias Smith MARSH Charlotte 7 McDONALD Eleanor 7 METCALF Elizabeth 7 MICHAEL Sarah 14 MIDDLESEX Elizabeth Price 7 MORGAN Anne 7 MORGAN Margaret 7 alias Mary Jones NASH Mary 7 OAKLEY Mary 7 PARRY Elizabeth 7 PEALING Hannah 7 PENNINGTON Elizabeth 7 PICKETT Sussanah 7 RANDALL Mary 7 REID Mary 7 ROBERTS Sarah 7 ROBINSON Elizabeth 7 ROCK Ann 7 ROSTER Elizabeth 7 ROWNEY Hannah 7 SANDERS Jane 7 alias Norris SHAKESPEAR Elizabeth Life SIMPSON Charlotte 7 alias Hall SIMPSON Mary 7 SMITH Elizabeth 7 alias Carr SMITH Elizabeth Life SMITH Mary 7 SMITH Sarah 7 SONG Mary Life STEEL Ann Life STEEL Elizabeth 7 STEWART Mary 7 STEWART Susannah 7 SULLEY Elizabeth 14 SUTTON Sarah 7 SYONS Sarah 7 TALBOT Dorcas 7 TALBOT Mary 7 TAYLOR Sarah 7 THOMAS Ann 7 THOMPSON Jane 7 York THOMPSON Mary 7 Lincoln THORNTON Esther Life TUCK Mary 7 TURNER Rachael 7 VANDEBUS Jane 14 WADE Mary Life WALKER Mary 14 WATERS Jane 7 WATSON Elizabeth 7 alias Davis WHEELER Ann 7 WHITING Jane Life WHITTAKER Jane 7 WILLIAMS Jane 7 alias Vicars WILLIAMS Mary 7 WILLIAMS Phoebe 7 WILSON Mary 7 WILSON Sarah 7 WINSPEAR Mary 7 WISHAW Elizabeth 7 WOOD Ann 7 YOUNG Sarah 7

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 29 Jan 2006 05:05

WINSPEAR Mary 7 WISHAW Elizabeth 7 WOOD Ann 7 YOUNG Sarah 7 Tony Oz :>))

Kylee-Ann

Kylee-Ann Report 29 Jan 2006 05:40

Hi I have just read your letters about convicts to Australia.Well I have 2 in my family that we know of for sure.John Pike arrived in Sydney on the 4th August 1802.his ship was 'Perseus'.his crime was theft.jane Ferriday arrived 26th october 1807.her ship was 'Sydney Cove.' She was sentenced to life imprisonment.John receved 7 years for his crimes.Jane's crime was highway robbery were her cohorts would strip the ladies of their lace underwear and allowed to drive on while the male passengers had their cash stolen and were made to walk.John became a land owner after receiving his pardon in about 1814>jane received her pardon in 1835.John and Jane married in 1807 after Jane arrived in Sydney. Kylee Sydney Australia

Unknown

Unknown Report 29 Jan 2006 08:10

Hi Anne I have read a book about that. The Floating Brothel by Sian Rees Lesley Pearse's book Remember Me is also based on that voyage Both are excellent. I shall be watching out for the TV programme Dee ;-))

Slinky

Slinky Report 29 Jan 2006 10:10

morning folk, Tony... that list is brilliant.... maybe some members can now find rellies they think are theres.... The programme is about The Juliana and I can't wait to hear stories of any that GR members have if they have a convict on that ship... sadly no names of mine... some of my females were right little hussies but think thats as far as it goes...lol... Anne:)))

Linda G

Linda G Report 29 Jan 2006 10:24

Thanks for remimding me. I have written it on the calendar. My husbands GGGGrandfather sailed to Tasmania in 1803 on the 'Calcutta' convicted of sheep stealing. He had been sentenced to death but the sentence was commuted to transportation. He left a wife and 8 children here. It will be so interesting to see the sort of conditions they endured (and sad). We are lucky enough to have found out extensive information about him and are in touch with direct descendants of his, mainly through this site and even know where is is buried. Will be taping it as well. Linda

Beryl

Beryl Report 29 Jan 2006 10:49

I will be watching. I have enjoyed reading this thread. Although we all know about transportation it somehow becomes more poignant when you see the names. Also very interesting to learn from descendants. I have just discovered one of my ancestors was imprisoned for smuggling. I wonder why he escaped transportation. Beryl x

Jude 3

Jude 3 Report 29 Jan 2006 13:31

Hi Anne my Joseph Bunton was born Essex c. 1796. arrived the colony of Hobart 1823, he had been convicted of 2 offences and was sentenced to 7 years transportation. he was a farm labourer and left UK on the ship 'albion' he had a journey of 154 days. My 2nd cousin found out this and the court record from colchester.uk.Joseph was lucky enough to be assigned to farm work. I will be forever grateful to my convict ancestor as I can claim with pride that I am 5th generation australian from good convict stock. lol. I don't know how our ancestors survived the hardships but i am in awe of them. judy

Slinky

Slinky Report 29 Jan 2006 13:56

There are some lovely stories connected with these convicts and those who are lucky enough to have one that went to the colonies... you must be so proud of them... I know I would... But I can't find one... sob... Anne :)))

susie manterfield(high wycombe)

susie manterfield(high wycombe) Report 29 Jan 2006 14:15

i will have to remember to watch that lol one of my rellies was transported to VDL on her arrival she was sent to port arthur penal colony. it seems a bit harsh as she only took a napkin from her employer. she sailed on the SS America from the downs(thames estuary) on 6th january 1831 and arrived in hobart on 9th may 1831. susie

Slinky

Slinky Report 30 Jan 2006 09:58

Mary... don't get upset chuck... you're not that old.. lol... Mary was used a lot in those days... Catholics nearly always put 'Mary' in front of another name for their girl offspring... like 'Mary Jane... Mary Frances...Mary Elizabeth... Most were called by their second name but others... being very iliterate in those days... called them just 'Mary'..... You would also find they called several children by the same name in families... I have one family that had 3 Johns'... two of them dying in infancy. Anne :)))

Slinky

Slinky Report 30 Jan 2006 10:13

Glad to be of service Mary...lol... Hope you are well and chat soon. Anne :)))

Slinky

Slinky Report 3 Feb 2006 19:32

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