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Caroline Mustill b. 1949

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Debbie

Debbie Report 22 Jul 2011 00:00

Hi there
I have only just started doing my husbands family tree & have discovered that my father in law was married twice before he married my husbands mother.
We are not sure about the marriage details of his second marriage or if there were any children. However, I have confirmed that he had a daughter from his first marriage & we would like to try & find her if at all possible. Being new to this I have absolutely no idea where to start & would welcome any ideas or help you may be able to offer.
My husbands father was Harry Robert Housden Mustill b 1925 (d 1982) he married his first wife Gwendoline M Willis on 14 September 1948 and they had a daughter, Caroline Mustill in 1949.
We have no idea what happened or where they went but Gwendoline remarried in 1955 an Anthony H Wilson.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

Lynski

Lynski Report 22 Jul 2011 02:43

To look up births, marriages and deaths use

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Records are being added all the time but at the moment you can be lucky up to the 1950's??

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 22 Jul 2011 02:43

I don't see a marriage for Caroline so perhaps she took the surname Wilson.

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 22 Jul 2011 02:49

You might want to get the first marriage certificate. You can then try to track down where Gwendoline was born and then search for her death. Could be Caroline was the informant.

Rose

Lynski

Lynski Report 22 Jul 2011 03:24

Have you tried Search Trees on this site? There are other members with Mustill's in their trees.

Debbie

Debbie Report 22 Jul 2011 07:19

Thank you for the replies so far.

I have been told by a family member that Caroline was going to be adopted by her mothers new husband (Wilson) however, we are not certain if this actually happened. Does that mean any searches would then come up with the adopted name?

I'm not sure if the mother Gwendoline has passed away yet, but could look at getting some certificates for her - you just never know.

I have searched on the site but Caroline is only on my tree.

I'm in New Zealand so I'm not sure what sites would help me find her. I looked at a site to find details for her mother & stepfather (if they are still alive), they are:
Gwendoline M Wilson (Willis/Mustill)
Anthony H Wilson
Last known place to live: Eastbourne, Sussex
Married: 1955

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 22 Jul 2011 07:30

Debbie,

I don't see any marriages for Caroline under Mustill so it would appear she become Wilson.

Wilson's such a common name they will be hard to track down without certificates to give ages and middle names.

Rose

Flick

Flick Report 22 Jul 2011 10:29

If her mother's husband adopted Caroline, it would have been a 'Mother's Own Adoption'......a specific procedure.

If her father was alive, and could be traced, his consent would have been required

Caroline would thereafter be known by her 'new' surname

Flick

Flick Report 22 Jul 2011 10:32

To try to look for a death for Gwendoline, you need to know when she was born..........how old was she when she married in 1948? And what was her father's name?

Also..........what name is represented by her second initial?

For info....the 1948 marriage took place in Surrey.and it's the only one on Ancestry for the name Harry R Mustill.

There are three marriages for Harry Mustill with no second initial - all accounted for, and matched up with births and deaths

FAIRTHORN

FAIRTHORN Report 22 Jul 2011 10:54

Address sent up to 2008
perhaps write to new tenants ( data sent )

Hopefully perhaps gone into a nursing/care home

see inbox
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Debbie

Debbie Report 22 Jul 2011 11:02

Thank you Flick.

My husband had no idea that he had a half sister until 2 weeks ago when I started to do the tree on genes reunited, we asked his mother who confirmed it. I have just ordered some certificates including, the marriage cert. so hopefully we can find some more information about Gwendoline from that.

His mother has now told us that Harry (the father) apparently gave permission for Caroline to be adopted by the new husband.

I'm a little stumped as my husbands mother said Harry then run off & married a "Jane" & then he married her... I can't find any records of these marriages but he was working on the Cruise ships going to Australia at the time & they may have been married there. Do you have nay idea where I can go for these marriage records?

The information we can get from my husbands mother is very limited.

Flick

Flick Report 22 Jul 2011 11:07

Please don't take offence, but if your MIL isn't prepared to give you details of her marriage...perhaps it didn't happen?

There is an index of overseas marriages of British subjects on FMP (findmypast)

Debbie

Debbie Report 22 Jul 2011 11:16

Flick, no problem I'm not offended at all.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 22 Jul 2011 17:50

What is your MIL's maiden name?

There's a marriage for a Henry R Mustill in 1954 to a Mills. I can't find a birth for a Henry R Mustill so am wondering if this is Harry.

Rose

Flick

Flick Report 22 Jul 2011 22:20

Name: Harry R H Mustill
Mother's Maiden Surname: Tallon
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1925
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex, Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 204
___________________________________________________

Name: Harry R Mustill
Spouse Surname: Willis
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1948
Registration district: Surrey South Western
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 5g
Page Number: 2379
Find Spouse: Find Spouse
_____________________________________________________

Name: Harry Robert H Mustill
Birth Date: 22 Apr 1925
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1982
Age at Death: 56
Registration district: Southend On Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 3354

Flick

Flick Report 22 Jul 2011 22:33

Ms Mills is Eileen D...on the marriage to Henry Mustill

Lynski

Lynski Report 22 Jul 2011 23:28

I notice that the death of Harry Robert H. Mustill in 1982 is in the Registration District of Southend On Sea.

Found this on Ancestry?

From 1967 to 1980 (only records available) there is a record in the British Phone Books, 1880-1984 for

Harry Mustill, Grngrcr, 199 Eastern Espl., Southend-o-s, 88170

Debbie

Debbie Report 22 Jul 2011 23:41

Thank you everyone,

The Harry Mustill listed as a Greengrocer in Southend on Sea is the correct Harry (my husbands father). It is also the same Harry Mustill who died in 1982 aged 56.

So the marriage to Gwendoline in 1948 is correct & I have ordered certificates for this. It could be quite possible that the wedding listed as Henry R Mustill in 1954 to Eileen D Mills could be him as the dates work - he was not known to use the name Henry though. His 3rd marriage to Sandra M Hughes would have been around 1960/1961 & we think they got married in Sydney, Australia. Although I have no idea how to find a record of this.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 23 Jul 2011 00:01

Eileen D is also down as Doris E.

Don't see any Mustill/Mills children.

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 23 Jul 2011 00:12

Possible remarriage for Eileen in 1962.

Rose