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looking for my long lost auntie gloria she was born in 1923 in braunton north devon to alfred and florence williams
she married john ds wright in surrey northern eastern
in may 1943
i cannot find a death certificate for her
there is another marriage certificate for 1963 in the same area to a theophilus m williams but im not sure if that was her second marrige and i donot know if shes had any children,
please can anyone help please
best wishes
sandra

Technically speaking unless she had divorced or had reverted to using her maiden surname then if she married for a second or subsequent time then under normal circumstances her name at the time of any later marriage would have been under her formerly married surname.

Do you know her exact date of birth as death records after the late 1960's can be searched by forenames only.

Just to add to the information given - Unknown has PM'd me today as she had a thread started mid June before anyone was allowed to add to it.

In addition to the info given above, unknown says The reason she is not sure about the marriage to Theophilus M Williams, is that the spouse is listed as Gloria M Williams.

You'd have thought that if she was the previously married Aunt, she would be listed as Wright formerly Williams, or double entered.

Unknown has the exact dob, so any death prior to 2005/6 could be searched by first names and dob as Jonesey has pointed out. But the information on a DC is only as good as the informants knowledge.

Of course, it is always possible she is still alive, but too incapacitated to be included on an ER (mental infirmity etc), or elected not to have her name included on the commercial lists we can view by payment.

We/you need to look for children of both marriages - on freebmd, put the father's surname and the mothers maiden name and select a time frame. It's not infallible, but might throw up possibles.

Try search Trees on here, facebook or Friendsreunited for any children you may find. And of course on here for Gloria. Someone may have her in their tree.

Might this be her?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Gloria May Simmins
Name: Gloria May Simmins
Birth Date: 28 May 1923
Date of Registration: Jan 2005
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: North Dorset
Inferred County: Dorset
Register number: 73
District and Subdistrict: 430/1
Entry number: 211

That's a good shout Ginny...but there is no marriage record for a Gloria M to anyone called Simmins. Additionally, if "M" is omitted only one single marriage comes up, but the middle initial is R, so I think the above can be discounted

That d.o.b on the death Ginny gave, is one day out. ;-)

Possibly a co-incidence or was Simmins another name she might have been known by after the poster's family lost contact?

i have found two people in surrey northern eastern
alison and bernard born under williams in 1963 and 1964
i was wondering if these are the children by her second marriage :-S

Or born to an unmarried Mother?
Purchase the birth certificates?

Det... I think you might have a point

Who knows why...it was easy to make things up back in that time

If this was my family, I would HAVE to get that death cert...but thats me

Paul, Im not seeing that marriage you mention?

Ive found what I think to be the marriage you refer to. Ive looked at the GRO image and it looks like 'Simons' or 'Simmons'

Her name is Gloria Edwards?

if you look under surrey northern eastern, 1943
the first marriage is the certificate that i heve and then there is another one for 1963

If you buy the death certificate that I posted then you might have your problem solved.

i have checked and there isnt a marriage cert for simmins or birth cert
i think i will try and get the certificate fot gloria may williams in surrey in 1963 that might be her

is there anyway that i can find if she had children by her first husband john ds wright?

The DOB is an exact match as the death I posted...PM from Unknown

You can look on freebmd to see if there are any births from her marriage to Wright

With such a common combination of surnames and no further information available it is virtually impossible to judge whether any of the 300+ Wright/Williams births registered in England and Wales between 1943~1963 were a product of the 1943 marriage.

Amongst the 300+ births there were some in Surrey but none in Surrey North Eastern registration district which is where the 1943 marriage took place.

ok thanks for trying
sandra

i have found who i think my auntie might of married second time Theophilus m Williams in 1963 . i cannot find a birth cert or death cert for this man only a marriage cert
can anyone help please
regards
sandra :-S