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Name Violet M Turnbull
Year of Marriage 1953
Quarter of Marriage Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District Fulham
Registration County London
Spouse's Surname Thomas
Volume Number 5C
Volume Page 1252

Spouse Match: Violet M TURNBULL married William E THOMAS


SADLY POSSIBLE
Name Violet M Thomas
Year of Registration 1961
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Marylebone
Registration County London
Age at Death: 40
Volume Number 5D
Volume Page 266

That Fulham one looks quite likely Fairthorn.

I'd send for that cert and see how old you was etc etc

Incoming passenger list:

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Helena Turnbull Name: Helena Turnbull
Birth Date: abt 1890
Age: 46
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 5 Jul 1936
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal
[Quebec]
Ship Name: Aurania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Aurania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard White Star
Official Number: 147277

She's listed as housewife. She's with Lillian, 9, John, 10, Mildred, 17 and Violet, 15. They're heading to 205 St. Abbs St., Welling, Kent. last permanent residence was Canada.

I wonder if this is Helena's arrival in Canada?

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Mrs Helena Turnbull Name: Mrs Helena Turnbull
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Birth Place: Slumptead
Age: 34
Date of Arrival: May 1924
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Marloch


She was born Hampstead not Slumptead, is going to join husband Mr. Turnbull, 5250 Eighth Ave., Montreal. Nearest relative at home was sister Miss Hackie/Flackie/Blackie?, 40 Elderpark St.???

Aha!!!

Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967
about Turnbull Name: Turnbull
Event Year: 1925
Event: Naissance (Birth)
Religion: Anglican
Place of Worship or Institution: Montréal (Anglican Saint Augustin), Montréal, Rosemont (Anglican Saint Augustin)
Province: Québec (Quebec)

Original reads:

"Violet Maud, daughter of John A. Turnbull, electric welder, 5335 (?) Ave., and of Helena Maud his wife was born on the 19th. day of November 1920 and was baptised on the 6th day of December 1925.

Baptised same day John born 10 Oct. 1925 , same parents,

I know! Something doesn't add up here. Violet was born 1920 but we have her mother arriving in Canada 1924. Perhaps she was just returning after a visit to England?

Lilian's baptism in Montreal:

Lilian Georgina daughter of John Archibald Turnbull of 5335 Fifth Ave., Rosemount, Montreal, coppersmith, and Helena Maud Blakey his wife, born 23 April 1927 and baptised 3 July 1927.

Helena Maud's birth?

Births Sep 1890 (>99%)
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Blakey Helena Maud Woolwich 1d 1244

Margee,

That's the birth I posted earlier. Does the passenger list state Plumstead and not Hampstead?

Rose

Sorry, Rose, hadn't realized you'd already posted that birth. My mistake.

As for place of birth on that passenger list, my mistake again. Of course you're correct it's Plumstead not Hampstead.

Thanks Margee,

This looks like John's birth:

Births Sep 1892
Turnbull John Archibald Greenwich 1d 1136

Rose

That date of birth for Lilian matches the death info for Lillian Georgina Byford that I mentioned earlier.

Rose

As mentioned Lilian had a couple of children and it looks like the daughter married moved to the south coast can see her on the ER till about 2004 with a daughter maybe she married again ?

jax

Following on from the birth that Rose found, this looks like John Archibald's arrival in Canada:

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about John Turnbull Name: John Turnbull
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Birth Place: Greenwich, England
Age: 30
Date of Arrival: Jul 1923
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Gourock, Scotland
Ship Name: Montlaurier

Original says he's a coppersmith and is heading to his aunt Mrs. R. Turnbull, 269 Niagara St., Toronto, Ontario.

Nearest relative at home was wife Mrs. Helen Turnbull, 105 Albert Rd., Gourock.

But, but, but Violet was born 1920! Born in Scotland, maybe but baptised in Montreal? But then can't find her arrival in Canada?

Ah yes, here's Violet's arrival in Canada with her mother. Didn't see it at first because there's no passenger list as such. So she wasn't born in Canada just baptised here!

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Violet Turnbull Name: Violet Turnbull
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1921
Birth Place: Lomoth
Age: 3
Date of Arrival: May 1924
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Marloch

Oh shoot! I sent a pm to Michelle telling her that Violet was born in Canada!

That explains why I couldn't find the marriage or them in 1911.

She moved around a bit but they eventually came back to Kent.

Rose

Someone called Gordon has Violet in his tree on here!

Rose

This is the other child who arrived with her mother. Both mother's & father's names are the same as well as father's address in Montreal.

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Hilda Dorothy Turnbull Name: Hilda Dorothy Turnbull
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1919
Birth Place: Gourock, Scotland
Age: 5
Date of Arrival: May 1924
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Marloch

Hilda Dorothy must be "Mildred" then.


Marriages Mar 1940
Turnbull Hilda D Peeling Dartford 2a 2799

Rose

Lots of Peeling/Turnbull children.

Rose