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Brother & Sister : Juanita and William Gill

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Jean

Jean Report 13 Jan 2012 00:38

Thanks Shelia , Maria - Across the ditch - and Flowerpot

Will take all your suggestions on board - and hope that something turns up

Marilyn was not on her mothers DC -her Uncle was and since died - and her cousin has no idea were she went after her mothers death or that she had children

As you say may have remarried and changed the name


Thanks All
Jean

Sappho

Sappho Report 12 Jan 2012 17:27

Plenty of Gill names in NZ - we are a hop across the Tasman from Australia if that helps.

Maria

KINGSMILL

KINGSMILL Report 12 Jan 2012 03:49

Depending on how much you want to find them

you could purchase the below...............this gets you to 1963 if Marilyn is the informant.
It will give her surname/address in 1963 as she could have remarried

SADLY ( this ties in with where Marilyn married in 1953 )
Death Record
Name Irene V B Croft
Year of Registration 1963
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Croydon
Registration County Surrey
Age at Death: 64
Volume Number 5G
Volume Page 60

£9.25 on-line

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
.


I find it strange that others have them on their family trees but have NO idea where they went ? . :-S


.

Sheila

Sheila Report 11 Jan 2012 19:34

Jean on facebook there is a Juanita Gill in Devon on facebook, this may be the one with the middle initial M, but wonder if there could be a connection to the family ?

Jean

Jean Report 11 Jan 2012 05:49

Thanks for all that inf. really appreciated

But am 100% sure no connection to India

And yes, I knew about the Lawrence/McAvoy/Terry connections
Just can't seem to find Marilyn and her family - a big mystery -maybe they changed their names ??

Have also contacted members with the above names on their trees but know one can anwer the question -

Thanks Kaye will look into the Brisbane Achives you mentioned -

Thanks Everyone - Jean

KINGSMILL

KINGSMILL Report 6 Jan 2012 05:33


1891 Census Household Record
Address 71, Lambeth Road
Parish Lambeth
District Lambeth, Lambeth Church First
Administrative County London

Householder 1
Name Joseph Lawrence
Age 43
Estimated Year of Birth 1848
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Singer
Birth Place Leeds
Birth County

Householder 2
Name Emma Lawrence
Age 41
Estimated Year of Birth 1850
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Leeds
Birth County

Householder 3
Name George Lawrence
Age 20
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Carpenter
Birth Place Leeds
Birth County

Householder 4
Name Ernest Lawrence
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1872
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Clerk
Birth Place Leeds
Birth County

Householder 5
Name Victoria Lawrence
Age 17
Estimated Year of Birth 1874
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Singer
Birth Place Leeds
Birth County

Householder 6
Name Sydney Lawrence
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Lambeth
Birth County

Householder 7
Name Arcker Lawrence
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1884
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Lambeth
Birth County

Householder 8
Name Julia Slocum
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1861
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation Dressmaker
Birth Place Gibraltar
Birth County

Householder 9
Name Rose Slocum
Age 21
Estimated Year of Birth 1870
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation
Birth Place
Birth County Suffolk

Householder 10
Name Charlotte Danby
Age 48
Estimated Year of Birth 1843
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation Servant
Birth Place Leeds
Birth County

Householder 11
Name Robert Danby
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1877
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Bradford
Birth County

Householder 12
Name Frank Danby
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1891
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Lambeth
Birth County

KINGSMILL

KINGSMILL Report 6 Jan 2012 05:19

1901 Census Household Record
Address 28 Osborne Terr
Civil Parish Lambeth
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Kennington St Mark
Parliamentary Borough or Division Kennington
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Lambeth
Administrative County London

Householder 1
Name Irene Avoy
Relation to Head of Family Grand Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 2
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born London
Language
Infirmity

Householder 2
Name Victoria M Avoy ( should be Mcavoy no middle name )
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 35
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Vocalist Music
Employment Status
Where Born Leeds Yorks <<<<<<<<<<<<
Language
Infirmity

Householder 3
Name Marian Gilchrist
Relation to Head of Family Servant
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 19
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Nurse
Employment Status
Where Born India
Language
Infirmity

Householder 4
Name Louisa Knight
Relation to Head of Family Servant
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 24
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Cook Domestic
Employment Status
Where Born Lambeth
Language
Infirmity

Householder 5
Name Archer Lawrence
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 17
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Clerk
Employment Status
Where Born London
Language
Infirmity

Householder 6
Name Emma Lawrence
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 50
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Leeds Yorks
Language
Infirmity

Householder 7
Name Ernest Lawrence
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 28
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Theatrical Agnt
Employment Status
Where Born Leeds Yorks

KINGSMILL

KINGSMILL Report 6 Jan 2012 05:14

1911 Census Household Record
Household information
Address Park Lodge Stockwell Park Road Sw
Parish Lambeth
Town SW
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms Nine Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN2026 RG78PN71 RD25 SD3 ED20 SN8
Administrative County London
Registration District Lambeth
Registration Sub District Stockwell
Enumeration District 20

Householder 1
Name Emma Lawrence
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 60
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Occupation None
Employed N
Working at Home N
Industry None
Place of Birth Holbeck Leeds
Nationality British Subject By Nationality

Householder 2
Name Archer Lawrance
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 25
Estimated Year of Birth 1886
Occupation Architect
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth London S E
Nationality British Subject By Nationality

Householder 3
Name Irene Victoria Blanche Mcavoy
Relationship to Head of Household Granddaughter
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1900
Occupation None School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth London S E
Nationality British Subject By Nationality

Householder 4
Name Elizabeth Anne Gatehouse
Relationship to Head of Household
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1889
Occupation Servant
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth London E C
Nationality British Subject By Nationality

KINGSMILL

KINGSMILL Report 6 Jan 2012 04:59

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
Name: Alfred Croft
Spouse Surname: Mcavoy Or Terry
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1920
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 840
Terry Irene B V
McAvoy Irene B V

HER BIRTH
Births Dec 1898
McAvoy Irene Victoria B St Saviour 1d 75


SADLY ( this ties in with where Marilyn married in 1953 )
Death Record
Name Irene V B Croft
Year of Registration 1963
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Croydon
Registration County Surrey
Age at Death: 64
Volume Number 5G
Volume Page 60

Marriages Sep 1897
Lawrence Victoria St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 1114
McAvoy Frederick Wallace St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 1114

Marriages Sep 1920
Lawrence Victoria Terry Wandsworth 1d 1649
McAvoy Victoria Terry Wandsworth 1d 1649
Terry Victoria Terry Wandsworth 1d 1649
Terry William E H Terry Wandsworth 1d 1649
Terry William E H McAvoy Wandsworth 1d 1649
Terry William E H Lawrence Wandsworth 1d 1649


SOMEONE HAS IRENE & VICTORIA LAWRENCE ON THEIR TREE


.

KINGSMILL

KINGSMILL Report 5 Jan 2012 15:13

TELEPHONE NUMBER & ADDRESS SENT

EDIT
SHAME THE PERSON HAD THE FAMILY ON THEIR TREE
BUT NO IDEA WHERE THEY WENT









:-S

Kay????

Kay???? Report 5 Jan 2012 14:24

There is information pertaining to a--

Juanita Gill in the Australian Archives,
Section J-25.....1973/10526--Brisbane.
Not been Examined..?

What these refer to it doesnt say but nothing to indicate migration records from UK.

Edit,,,,,possibly a name search on friendsreunited could shed light on this person.

Jean

Jean Report 5 Jan 2012 04:16

Hi Patchem

Sorry for taking so long in reply - Christmas & all That -

As far as I know No spanish or South American connection - maybe they saw the name somewhere and liked it ?

Am looking at the Nellie Watts/Gill line in Devon/Cornwall will let you know if I come up with anything else -
Thanks - Jean

patchem

patchem Report 15 Dec 2011 07:01

Just thinking completely at a tangent, but why Juanita?
Any Spanish or South American connections?
Or was it just after a silent movies film star?

Jean

Jean Report 15 Dec 2011 03:17

Thank you Jonesey

I will look in that direction - thanks Jean

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 13 Dec 2011 09:10

On the emigration front the most common destination during the late 1950's and 1960's was Australia. I have looked at the Australian Electoral Registers up to 1980 for a Marilyn Gill living with a James Gill but I have drawn a blank.

Your next best line of attack is to pursue James Frances Gill via his fathers details as indicated on his marriage certificate. The 1928 birth registration of a James F Gill shows a mothers maiden name of Watts. See if you can discover a Gill/Watts marriage and then check the name of the groom to see if that matches the name of the father shown on the Gill/Croft marriage certificate.

If it does you will need copies of the 1928 birth certificate and of the Gill/Watts marriage certificates to see whether Gill Snr's occupation ties in.

Good luck.

Jean

Jean Report 12 Dec 2011 23:17

Hi All
Thank you for replying to me - sorry for inconvience as I am new to this forum.

Juanita Ann Frances Gill - William Douglas Gill

First they were born in the Hammersmith area London she in 1954 he in 1955
Parents Marilyn Croft and James Francis Gill - they married in 1953 in Croydon Surrey - he was said to have been 24 years old on the MC the address for both on the MC was the same so can't trace him that way - the only James Frances Gill who was born 1928-29 in the UK that I can find was in Exeter Devon. Marilyn was born 1932 Wandsworth

They seemed to have vanished after 1960 - I think they may have imigrated - but hard to find after 1960 -

I am helping my cousin to find her family members -
Any help or advice appreciated - Thanks Jean

Flick

Flick Report 12 Dec 2011 22:19

PM received...have advised posting on here

Info bears out your supposition, patchem

William's second initial 'D'

Jean thinks they emigrated.............

patchem

patchem Report 11 Dec 2011 09:24

She was probably Juanita A F Gill, but awaiting return of Jean.

Flick

Flick Report 11 Dec 2011 09:06

You must at least tell us which country they were born in..........

Also, please say what research you have done yourself.............

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 11 Dec 2011 08:03

What else do you know about them such as where were they born, parents names ect?

What is your connection to them?