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Athol & Cyril Byerley

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Delma39

Delma39 Report 12 Jul 2012 01:29

Seeking descendants of these sons of George Byerley and Phoebe Allen Married1889 NSW Australia.
Athol J A born 1892 Rockdale NSW, married Dorothy Pamplin (Pampton) 1916 Hackney LND, died 1960 Chiichester Sussex.
Cyril John born 1895 Portsmouth Hampshire.
help appreciated
Helen

jax

jax Report 12 Jul 2012 03:13

Hi Helen welcome to the boards

Have you tried the search trees there are a couple who have Athol in their tree

Gai

Gai Report 12 Jul 2012 05:31

Here is the 1911 census with the family. Phoebe is listed as a widow and Leslie as a step son.

Name: Athol Byerley
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Lydney
Civil parish: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: 36 Chichester Road, North End, Portsmouth
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Civil Service
Registration district: Portsmouth
Registration District Number: 90
Sub-registration district: North End and Buckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 213
Piece: 5504
Household Members:
Name Age
Phoebe Byerley 50
Leslie Byerley 36
Athol Byerley 18
Eric Byerley 15
View image

Gai

Gai Report 12 Jul 2012 05:43


I wonder if this is George's death.

Deaths Jun 1905 (>99%)
Byerley George 64 Portsmouth 2b 251

Penny

Penny Report 12 Jul 2012 07:24

1901 = Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 978; Folio: 20; Page: 32.


George Byerley 59
Phoebe Byerley 38
George L Byerley 27 <<Wonder if that is Leslie?
Nellie Byerley 10
Athol Byerley 8
Eric Byerley 5
Cyril Byerley 2


* Nellie Married a BROWN
Phoebe died in 1920

Nellie was born in NSW,so they are not going to show on th e1891 in UK

Delma39

Delma39 Report 12 Jul 2012 08:14

Byerley
Re earlier post; Sorry I did not make clear that research on this family from 1805 to 1960 death of Athol is complete (including multiple journeys between old & new worlrd). The information I need is if Athol or Cyril had children and living descendants to connect with
their Australian nephew.
Helen

Gai

Gai Report 12 Jul 2012 09:59

HI Helen,

I notice on Freebmd that there are two marriages for an Athol Byerley so do you happen to know if it's your Athol.

Gai

jax

jax Report 12 Jul 2012 15:55

Is this a son?

Births Dec 1918 (98%)
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Byerley Athol J ? Portsmouth 2b 571

mothers name listed on FMP

Civil registration event: Birth

Name: BYERLEY, Athol J
Registration district: [?] Portsmouth
County: Hampshire
Year of registration: 1918
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Pamplin
Volume no:[?] 2B
Page no:[?]571

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Marriages Sep 1940 (>99%)
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Byerley Athol J Jenkyn Surrey N.E. 2a 336

Looks like there is one child born 1948

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Athol John Byerley
Name: Athol John Byerley
Birth Date: 9 Oct 1918
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1973
Age at Death: 54
Registration district: Worthing
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 2576

There is also a daughter born 1924 who married in 1944 who also possibly had one child found on freebmd

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jul 2012 10:07

The ONLY Cyril born Hampshire

You appear to have some crossed wires

Name: Cyril George Byerley
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1899
Registration district: Portsea Island
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 412


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jul 2012 10:11

ERIC was the one whose second forename was JOHN

Name: Eric John Byerley
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1895
Registration district: Portsea Island
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 457


Name: Eric John Byerley
Birth Date: abt 1897
Age: 51
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 6 Jul 1948
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Sydney
[Melbourne]
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
[Bombay]
[Suez]
Ship Name: Stratheden
Search Ship Database: View the 'Stratheden' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: P & O Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 165614

Travelling with him:

Marjorie Jean aged 30
Evelyn Ann aged 7
Allan James under 1 yr

Destination address: 12, Richmond Road, Wimbledon


Name: Eric J Byerly
Birth Date: abt 1897
Age: 27
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 14 Apr 1924
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Mombasa
[Dar-es-Salaam]
[Beira]
[Durban]
[Port Elizabeth]
[Cape Town]
Ship Name: Guildford Castle
Search Ship Database: View the 'Guildford Castle' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: The Union Castle Mail Steamship Company
Official Number: 132611

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jul 2012 10:14

Neither Cyril nor Eric appears to have died in the UK

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jul 2012 10:17

from freebmd......which you can access yourself

Marriages Sep 1926 (>99%)
Bryant Kathleen S Byerley Portsmouth 2b 1260
Byerley Cyril G Bryant Portsmouth 2b 1260

Use freebmd to look for possible children of the marriage

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jul 2012 10:20

Name: Kathleen Storey Byerley
Birth Date: 1 Aug 1901
Date of Registration: Nov 1992
Age at Death: 91
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 707

Name: Mrs Kathleen S Byerley
Birth Date: abt 1903
Age: 45
Port of Departure: Australia
Arrival Date: 11 Mar 1948
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Bombay
Ship Name: Asturias
Search Ship Database: View the 'Asturias' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Ministry of Transport
Official Number: 148146

Travelling alone

Destination address:

Hill House, Upland crescent, TRURO. Cornwall

Country of last permanent residence: India

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jul 2012 10:24

Departure

BYERLEY Kathleen S 1902 F 1947 Southampton India Bombay VIEW VIEW

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jul 2012 10:27

Departure

BYERLEY Allan James Master 1947 M 1948 London Australia Melbourne VIEW VIEW
BYERLEY Eric John 1897 M 1948 London Australia Melbourne VIEW VIEW
BYERLEY Evelyn Ann 1941 F 1948 London Australia Melbourne VIEW VIEW
BYERLEY Marjory 1917 F 1948 London Australia Melbourne VIEW VIEW

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jul 2012 10:44

1911 census

Person: BRYANT, Kathleen Address: 48 Osborne Road Southsea
Cost

BRYANT, James Head Married M 60 1851 Trunk Manufacturer Middlesex Westminster VIEW
BRYANT, Alice Wife Married29 years F 52 1859 Hants Southhampton VIEW
BRYANT, Marjorie Daughter Single F 24 1887 Unemployed At Home Hants Portsmouth VIEW
BRYANT, Ivy Daughter Single F 21 1890 Unemployed At Home Hants Portsmouth VIEW
BRYANT, Dorothy Daughter Single F 16 1895 School Hants Portsmouth VIEW
BRYANT, Kathleen Daughter Single F 9 1902 School Hants Southsea VIEW
SUTER, Emma Servant Single F 47 1864 General Servant Domestic Dorset Silton VIEW

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jul 2012 10:47

1901

Name: Dorothy J Bryant
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Bryant
Mother's name: Alice Bryant
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Portsmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St. Jude
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Portsmouth
Sub-registration district: Portsmouth and Mid Southsea
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 1002
Folio: 106
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
James Bryant 50
Alice Bryant 42
Vera E M Bryant 16
Margorie C Bryant 14
Ivy S Bryant 11
Roy L Bryant 9
Dorothy J Bryant 6
Emma Suter 34
Annie Oxford 35

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jul 2012 10:51


1891

Name: James Bryant
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice E Bryant
Gender: Male
Where born: St James; London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 857
Folio: 73
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
James Bryant 40
Alice E Bryant 52
Edger G T Bryant 8
Vera E M Bryant 6
Marjorie C Bryant 4
Ivey S Bryant 1
Emma Suter 38

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jul 2012 12:39

These Byerleys are in a number of Public Member Trees on Ancestry

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jul 2012 14:46

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Phoebe Byerley
Probate Date: 4 Feb 1921
Death Date: 29 Dec 1920
Death Place: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Registry: London, England
Administration to Athol James Allen Byerley, Inspector of Taxes
Effects £250 8s 5d