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Frederick James harris

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Jennifer Report 10 Nov 2012 14:06

I am looking for Frederick James Harris born 1923 has 2 brothers Dennis, Ernest and a sister called daisy, he was born in islington, the family have not seen or heard from him for many years and would love to know if he is still alive.


KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Nov 2012 14:28

Can I ask what have you done to try to find him

IE Police or missing persons organisations?


Jennifer Report 10 Nov 2012 14:50

As far as I know yes? But back in the day it was not like it is today


KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Nov 2012 14:55

If he has passed away would you know it was him you found, as it may be he has changed his name or the people at the home would have registered his death and that wouldnt then be clear its your Frederick

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Frederick Harris
Name: Frederick Harris
Birth Date: 30 Sep 1923
Date of Registration: May 1997
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: London
Register Number: B36D
District and Subdistrict: 2261B
Entry number: 59

This is an EXAMPLE but would you know its the right one?

How is it you have this mans details and have you tried to trace his other brothers and sisters?


Flip Report 10 Nov 2012 14:55

When did the family last have contact with him?


Jennifer Report 10 Nov 2012 15:22

My husbands grandfather died many years ago, Frederick was his grandfathers brother, there is still a brother Dennis and a sister daisy still alive, they lost contact with Frederick years ago, I don't know the whole story as to why they lost contact, but we are trying to find out what ever happend to him.


KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Nov 2012 15:31

But thats the problem the death above COULD be him and if he was in a home he could have been registered by a "home" member whom thought there was no family

did he marry?
have any children ?
move area?

Even a missing person could possible be found if he married when its registered but not if he changed his name

Its also unlikely BUT possinle that a gent of that age has a computer so marriage may be the only way to trace his possible whereabouts

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 10 Nov 2012 21:14

Not seeing a birth for a Frederick J Harris in Islington.


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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 10 Nov 2012 21:17

This one looks to have the siblings you mention:

Births Jun 1923
Harris Frederick J Drake Hackney 1b 800



patchem Report 11 Nov 2012 10:03

Presumably this is your grandfather, who was born Islington:
Births Dec 1919
Harris Ernest S Drake Islington 1b 500
But the siblings are spread about
Was Daisy born in 1930?
Have you looked on here to see if anyone has Frederick in their tree?

Someone has Frederick James born 1923 Lambeth in their tree on here - if you thought Islington, someone else can think Lambeth? (Wrong side of river, but worth an email).


Jennifer Report 11 Nov 2012 13:30

Yes this is my grandfather, and yes daisy was born 1930 , Frederick was another brother. Yes I've seen that there is another tree with Frederick but I'm having trouble sending a message for some reason, thanks for your help I really appreciate it.


Reggie Report 12 Nov 2012 12:09

You haven't answered the question about WHEN the siblings were last in contact.........also, please say where was he living at the time.

What was his exact DOB?

What 'trouble' are you having sending a message to a tree owner?

You just click on 'find out more' and the message box opens............then, having composed your message, you click 'send'


Jennifer Report 12 Nov 2012 18:57

I've just contacted customer support as I can't message any one to view their family tree, in which there is a Frederick James Harris, with tree owner Sandra cox, am waiting for a response as to why I can't message her, I'm also trying to find out from other family members his DOB and where they lived


Jennifer Report 12 Nov 2012 19:32

As far as they know Frederick went missing in late 40s early 50s he was a ganger on the railways at the time, we don't know his DOB, there is no death record for him I'm told, so maybe he moved abroad or we just are not looking in the right place. We don't know if he married or had children.


patchem Report 12 Nov 2012 20:15

Have you considered buying his birth certificate to get an exact date of birth?


KempinaPartyhat Report 13 Nov 2012 15:20

again how do you know and who told you theres no death record of him I,ve given you one possible above how do you know this is not him?


Sheila Report 17 Nov 2012 10:20

Hi were the children Ernest S Harris 1919 Islington, Frederick J Harris Hackney 1923, Ronald L Harris (could be Dennis) 1926 Hackney, and Daisy 1930 Romford All have mothers surname as Drake. Ernest Charles Harris married Florence Louisa Drake 1914 in Hackney her father was Ernest Paget Drake Wood Turner his father was Henry Charles Harris deceased Stock Keeper. Ernest Charles was a Private 8th Batt date of birth 1891 she was a domestic helper date of birth 1892 Hope this helps will look later on this afternoon for more The lady with Cox surname is not right as there is another birth for a Frederick J D but with mother cox not Drake Sheila


Jennifer Report 19 Nov 2012 17:33

Thanks Sheila for taking the time to help me, that all sounds about right, only I just can't find any records about Frederick, I don't know if he married or anything so it's hard to trace where if still alive or if he died, I do appreciate you helping me.


Jennifer Report 19 Nov 2012 18:01

I found out Fredericks date of birth it's 23 February 1923


patchem Report 19 Nov 2012 18:19

Unfortunately (or not) no-one's death showing for that exact date of birth as Frederick or James or Frederick James.
So he either died before the 1970's, or died after 2005, or is still alive, or the person registering his death got his birth date wrong.