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Rebecca Report 2 Feb 2013 16:15

Hi, I am looking for some living descendants of the Russian Eker/Ecker/Ekersoff/Eckersoff family. My Great Gran Beatrice Eker was born in England in 1908 but I am not sure when her parents moved to England.

Thank You,


jax Report 2 Feb 2013 17:30

Hi Rebecca

Have you looked to see if anyone has this family in their tree?


MargaretM Report 2 Feb 2013 18:56

Is this her? All children born in England:

1911 England Census
about Beatrice Eker Name: Beatrice Eker
Age in 1911: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: North Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 62a Cheetham Hill Road Manchester
Registration district: Prestwich
Registration District Number: 467
Sub-registration district: Cheetham
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 24186
Household Members: Name Age
Moses Eker 46
Sarah Eker 48
Rackel Eker 21
Milly Eker 19
Fanny Eker 18
Asher Eker 19
Solomon Eker 14
Leah Eker 11
Julius Eker 8
Miriam Eker 6
Beatrice Eker 3

Parents born Russia. Father is a Hebrew book seller.


MargaretM Report 2 Feb 2013 19:12

On the 1901 census the 2 older children Esther, 16 and Abraham, 15 were born Russia. Next child Rachel, 11 was born London so evidentally they emigrated 1886-1890.


trailertrash Report 3 Feb 2013 10:04

Does this not seem rather co-incidental???

1891 Hull Yorks
Eker family

Harris 1855 poland hebrew teacher
Sarah 1867 poland
Esther 1885 poland
Elek 1886 poland
Rachel 1889 london
Millie 1891 hull


trailertrash Report 3 Feb 2013 10:11

Looking at the image for the 1891 census, I do not think Harris is correct. The first letter looks like an M to me.. can anyone else have a look....


trailertrash Report 3 Feb 2013 10:32

looks like Esther married Solomon Carp 1906 prestwich. seems to have had a at least 8 probably more children.. do you need any help with identifying marriages and offspring?? You can look this all up on this site.


MargaretM Report 3 Feb 2013 13:18

I agree with trailertrash that the first name on that 91 census is not Harris and it definitely starts with an M. He is a Hebrew teacher and the Hebrew word for that is "Moreh". Could that be what it is but spelled wrong?


Rebecca Report 3 Feb 2013 17:37

Thanks guys, jax, I have tried but only a few have replied to the tree viewing request. Margee, yes that's her and trailertrash, yes that des seem rather co-incidental given Millie, Rachel and Esther were all Beatrice's sisters. Also, Sarah was their mother so maybe 'Harris with an M' is Moses their father? Not sure who Elek is though, I'll have a look when I get the chance. Also, I think Esther did marry Solomon Carp because I have found a man called Gary Carp who in his family tree has that information. Thank you guys, I'll keep searching :-D


trailertrash Report 3 Feb 2013 17:46

I think it may be Moses and it is the same family as the 1911 census. Quite why they would say Poland on one census and Russia on a later census, I do not know. It is possible it was politically better earlier to be Polish or politically better later to be Russian.. Can anyone be more informative on the pollitical situation for Polish/Russian migrants... Or could the ennumerator on the earlier census have just guessed at their nationality if they didn't speak much/any English???


MargaretM Report 3 Feb 2013 18:07

Poland ceased to exist in 1795, becoming partioned off to Russia, Prussia & Austria. Poland regained its independance in 1918. Hence immigrants from Poland might say they're from Russia, Prussia or even Austria.


trailertrash Report 3 Feb 2013 18:19

Thanks for the info Margee, I have just looked at the Carp tree on Ancestry where it states Moses Ecker/Eker was born in Lithuania and was married to Sarah Rosen.. where is Lithuania in the Russia/Poland/Austria/Prussia tangle???


MargaretM Report 3 Feb 2013 18:33

Very similar with Lithuania. For a time there was a Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth but neighbouring countries systematically dismantled it. most of Lithuania going to Russia. Lithuania also declared independance in 1918.


trailertrash Report 3 Feb 2013 19:12

Thanks Margee, appreciate the information...


Rebecca Report 4 Feb 2013 10:54

Hm... so are they Russian, Polish or Lithuanian then? :-S :-S


trailertrash Report 4 Feb 2013 11:00

Yes - one of them at least, unable to say for sure as they all seem to have intermingled at one time or another...sorry cannot be more specific..


Rebecca Report 4 Feb 2013 13:17

That's ok. I might try ancestry again... :-)