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patchem Report 12 Mar 2013 21:32

Very pleased at such a good outcome.


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Mar 2013 08:04

~Thanks for letting everyone know :-)


Elsiemary Report 11 Mar 2013 21:08

I did write to Norma c/o the funeral directors who did the funeral of Norma's late husband. I received a wonderful reply from her daughter who was delighted when she read my letter. Sadly, her mother Norma has alzheimers. Her daughter was Aware of her grandfathers name (my Uncle George) however, she knew nothing more about him. I can now send her photos so that she can put a face to the name.
She is as delighted as me to discover our relationship. :-)


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 22 Feb 2013 00:28

Whether you decide to find her address on bt online or write c/o the funeral directors, you might want to wait for a few weeks. Her husband only died last month. :-0


patchem Report 21 Feb 2013 21:26

I got that information from a google search on Peter Saundercock's name.
So you know that Norma is alive.
And try bt online for phone number and address.


Elsiemary Report 21 Feb 2013 19:49

Thank you for that information. How do you move so quick !


patchem Report 21 Feb 2013 18:40

Peter Saundercock

Published in the Falmouth Packet on 6 February 13

SAUNDERCOCK. – Peter William, aged 85 years, of Falmouth. Peacefully after a long illness, on 30th January 2013. Will be sadly missed by loving wife Norma, Daughter Sandra and all other family and friends. Funeral Service will take place at Emmanuel Baptist Church, Falmouth on Friday 15th February at 12.30 pm. No flowers please. Donations, if desired, for R.N.L.I. Falmouth by retiring collection or c/o Roy Sanders, Penryn & Falmouth Funeral Directors, 50 Kernick Road, Penryn, TR10 9DQ, 01326 376926 (24 hours).


Elsiemary Report 21 Feb 2013 15:58

Yes, my typing error, it is Hanna. I found a marriage in 1958 to Saundercock, Falmouth.


patchem Report 20 Feb 2013 20:42

I think the surname is Hanna, which is often Irish, so if you cannot find them, they might have gone to Ireland.


Elsiemary Report 19 Feb 2013 22:25

I have now found her marriage (married surname Hannah) assuming this is correct. I think I am getting the hang of this now! Next step is to see if she has any children. :-)


Elsiemary Report 19 Feb 2013 22:04

Thanks, assuming I have found the right daughter, Norma Whitr, I have attached her to my family tree. Now searching for her marriage.


patchem Report 19 Feb 2013 17:24

Have you looked up that daughter born in Devonport in 1932?


Elsiemary Report 19 Feb 2013 15:52

Hi, I certainly think your reply at 06.11 is correct. I always knew his second wife as my Auntie Ellen, however, her niece on her mother's side always called her Auntie Bessie. Her maiden name was Mills, but I had no idea of her first married name, i.e. Coles as you show above.

Regarding George's first marriage, you show a possible daughter Wendy born 1949. However, I find this very unlikely, after his divorce he moved in with our family. I was born 1943. When I was six, I can remember him being around, I cant imagine them having a daughter in 1949....(unless, of course, it wasn't his daughter).

Thank you so much for all your assistance.


patchem Report 19 Feb 2013 06:55

1911 England Census
Gwendoline Rosina Ellis Age in 1911: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female
Birth Place: Plymouth, Devon Civil parish: Plymouth County/Island: Devon Country: England
Street Address: 49 Richmond St, Plymouth Registration district: Plymouth
Registration District Number: 276 Sub-registration district: Plymouth South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Household schedule number: 34 Piece: 13002
Beatrice Ellis 26 married 5 years 3 children, 2 living
Gwendoline Rosina Ellis 3
Lilian Florence May Ellis 9/12
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 13002; Schedule Number: 34; .


patchem Report 19 Feb 2013 06:52

There is a birth for White/Ellis in Devonport in September 1932, for a daughter.

Worth considering?

You can find her on free bmd.

Also a likely marriage for her on free bmd in Plymouth.


patchem Report 19 Feb 2013 06:23

If George married in Plymouth, and married between 1924 and 1950 (for the first time), and does not have a middle name, then free bmd would give this as the most likely:
Marriages Mar 1932
Ellis Gwendoline R White Plymouth 5b 525
White George Ellis Plymouth 5b 525

But free bmd only gives a daughter born in 1949 in Plymouth (Wendy S), so a long time after the marriage.

Lots of children as possibles if born elsewhere.

Unfortunately no death for Gwendoline R White showing in Plymouth or elsewhere.

But as they were divorced, she could have married again.
And this looks like her second marriage
Gwendoline R White
Spouse Surname: Bond
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1950
Registration district: Falmouth
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 92
Leslie W F Bond White Or Ellis Jul-Aug-Sep 1950 Falmouth Cornwall

And her death?
Gwendoline Rosina Bond
Birth Date: 19 Mar 1908
Date of Registration: Jul 1992
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Falmouth
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 21
Page: 94

and birth;
Births Jun 1908
Ellis Gwendoline Rosina Plymouth 5b 243

His death?
Leslie William F Bond
Birth Date: 19 Aug 1915
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1969
Age at Death: 54
Registration district: Falmouth
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 7a
Page: 89


patchem Report 19 Feb 2013 06:11

Do you think this could be the second marriage?
Marriages Sep 1950
COLE Bessie K E White Plymouth 7a 1563
MILLS Bessie K E WHITE Plymouth 7a 1563
WHITE George COLE Plymouth 7a 1563
WHITE George MILLS Plymouth 7a 1563

Her birth:
Births Dec 1904
Mills Bessie Kate E Plymouth 5b 207

Her first marriage:
Marriages Dec 1933
Cole Cyril H J Mills Plymouth 5b 577
MILLS Bessie K E Cole Plymouth 5b 577


Elsiemary Report 18 Feb 2013 22:57

Hi again, further enquiries from extended cousins, discovered that Wilfred White met Iris en-route by boat to Australia and married in Australia! So no record here. At least that query resolved.


patchem Report 17 Feb 2013 23:18

I cannot see the marriage of Wilfred to Iris Fleet.

Any idea when George's second marriage occurred?


Elsiemary Report 17 Feb 2013 20:06

No children from the second marriage.