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Sent for birth cert for Henry John Brett

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Susan

Susan Report 9 Jun 2013 23:28

I have just sent for my dads birth cert namely Henry john Brett, I have discovered there were two births recorded of the same name during 1911, both in London. I know his father had exactly the same name but don't know his mothers name. I did have his marriage date and added that as a ps on the form. Will the PRO be able to find the right Henry J B due to me dating his marriage? Or is there another way to trace which one is the correct Henry?

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 23:38

The marriage info will be of no help in identifying the birth.......but the father's name MIGHT

When did he die?

jax

jax Report 9 Jun 2013 23:39

One was Romford the other Holborn is that right?

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 23:40

Are these the births?

Births Mar 1911 (>99%)
Brett Henry J Romford 4a 526

Births Jun 1911 (>99%)
Brett Henry J Holborn 1b 611

If so........how do you know the second names?

And only one was in London. Romford is Essex.

jax

jax Report 9 Jun 2013 23:41

There is a postem on the Holborn one

Think this is Henry John Brett. 8 June 1911 - 26 July 1997
Father of Frederick W Brett. Spouse of Mary Ada Jane.

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 23:42

Well, it wasn't the Romford one

DEATH

BRETT Henry J Romford Essex 1911 Jul-Aug-Sep

jax

jax Report 9 Jun 2013 23:43

The one born Romford died shortly after birth

Snap Reggie


When ever looking for a birth it is always advisable to see if they lived to adulthood

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 23:44

Is this your father?

Death
Name: BRETT, Henry John
Registration district: Hackney
County: London
Year of registration: 1997
Month of registration: July
Date of Birth:8 June 1911
District no: 2301B
Reg no: B34F
Ent no: 200
DOR: 797

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 23:45

Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%)
Brett Henry John Holborn 1b 1073
HENNEN Thomas Gravett Holborn 1b 1073
Mason Mary Anne Holborn 1b 1073
Sanderson Elizabeth Catharine Holborn 1b 1073

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 23:47

1911 census

Person: BRETT, Henry John Address: 52 Donegal ST
Cost

BRETT, Henry John Head Married M 50 1861 Machinist City of London VIEW
BRETT, Elizabeth Catherine Wife Married30 years F 54 1857 Monthly Nurse Newcastle VIEW
BRETT, Amelia Daughter Single F 14 1897 Tin Box Maker Clerkenwell VIEW
BRETT, Edward John Son Single M 23 1888 Machinist Clerkenwell

10 children born...only 3 living

This couple unlikely to be the parents.................perhaps he was their grandson

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 23:50

1901 census

Person: BRETT, Henry J Address: 30, Henry Street, Clerkenwell

BRETT, Henry J Head Married M 41 1860 Printer's Warehouseman
City, London VIEW
BRETT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 43 1858
Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland VIEW
BRETT, Amy F Daughter F 17 1884 Chocolate Machinist
Clerkenwell, London VIEW
BRETT, Edward J Son Single M 13 1888
Clerkenwell, London VIEW
BRETT, Amelia Daughter F 4 1897
Clerkenwell, London

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jun 2013 23:52

Thought he might have been Amy's...............but this scuppers that idea

Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%)
Brett Amy F Holborn 1b 1217
Harding Charles Holborn 1b 1217
Smith George A Holborn 1b 1217
Whiteside Florence Holborn 1b 1217

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Jun 2013 00:04

Amelia would have been old enough to get pregnant. It's not unknown for grandparents to bring the child up as their own.
Which cert did you order Susan?

jax

jax Report 10 Jun 2013 00:04

On the marriage cert it says father is Henry John Brett retired Checker Timber merchant this was in 1952 when he was 41 no mention of father being dec'd

Susan

Susan Report 10 Jun 2013 00:07

Thanks...Henry was father to Frederick and was married to Mary Ada Jane, fred his son was born in 1952

Susan

Susan Report 10 Jun 2013 00:08

So the one born in Holborn looks to be the right one...

jax

jax Report 10 Jun 2013 00:12

As the Romford one died as a baby...yes

There is a tree on ancestry that gives Henry and Elizabeth as his parents??? not impossible but you will find out when you get the cert

Susan

Susan Report 10 Jun 2013 00:13

I ordered the cert for my Dad Henry John brett....but all I could add was his fathers name, which was the same as his....

Susan

Susan Report 10 Jun 2013 00:14

Thanks everyone for the replies...much appreciated...Regards Susan :-)

Reggie

Reggie Report 10 Jun 2013 09:20

If you got the info about his father from your parents' marriage cert, bear in mind that it may not be 100% accurate.

Unless, of course, you knew your grandfather..................