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Finding Grandmother

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J_R0BlNS0N

J_R0BlNS0N Report 24 Jun 2013 15:08

I am trying to trace my Grand mother Christina Miosga who was born in Katowice Poland in 1937 (I do not have her birth cert I know her father was called Roman Miosga), I don't know how she met my grandfather (b Peterborough 1936) but he was serving in the Royal Navy (possibly National Service) he was 20 she was 17, she gave birth to 6 children between the years 1955 and 1962, Three of the siblings were born in Imtafa, David Bruce military hospital, Malta. my mother and her twin were born in 1955 and in 1957 my uncle was born ant at this period of time they resided in Senglea. Then in 1958 1957 and 1962 three more siblings were born in Portsmouth but 5 were taken into foster care I don't know what happened to the female after she was born in 1962. My grandfather still resides in Portsmouth but will not speak of the past so I'm trying to piece together the massive jigsaw for my mum and her brother. I have traced my grandfathers family back to1889 with a few surprises on the way but hey that's life ....

Please, where do I start to look for someone who was born in Poland during the lead up to ww2. thank you for your time

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Jun 2013 15:34

There's only 2 births listed for them 1959 and 1960 no 1962 birth


Edit the 1962 birth is on FreeBMD wasn't showing on Ancestry as the mmn is mistranscribed


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Have you tried to follow any of the children through marriages etc ?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Jun 2013 15:58

Did her father come to the UK too?


Name: Roman Josef Miosga
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1911
Date of Registration: Sep 1969
Age at Death: 58
Registration District: Peterborough
Inferred County: Huntingdonshire
Volume: 4b
Page: 981

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Jun 2013 16:00

Name: Roman J Miosga
Spouse Surname: Bodingbauer
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1951
Registration District: Peterborough
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 1462
Find Spouse: Ruth K A Bodingbauer

J_R0BlNS0N

J_R0BlNS0N Report 24 Jun 2013 16:25

Hi Shirley thank you for your reply,

I really don't know if Roman came to the UK its is either him or its very coincidental that a roman Miosga lived in Peterborough

I've seen That Roman Josef Miosga lived in Peterborough I have sent off for his nationality papers from the national archive as Roman Josef Miosga was a butcher in Perterborough. Ruth K A Miosga Owned a launderette but these were both married after my grandmother was born... here is an extract from the London Gazette 4th august 1964

Miosga, Roman Josef; Poland; Butcher; 42 St.
Martins Street, Peterborough, Northamptonshire.
25th May 1964.
Miosga, Ruth Karoline Anna ; Austria; Laundrette
Proprietress ; 42 St. Martins Street, Peterborough,
Northamptonshire. 25th May 1964

I added Houghton (grandfather's name) into surname box and Miosga into the optional key words box and got my answer for the 1962 female the 2 males are deffo my uncles

J_R0BlNS0N

J_R0BlNS0N Report 24 Jun 2013 16:47

my Grand father Born 1936 (Peterborough) Eric A G Houghton
my Grand Mother Born 1938 (Katowice, Poland) Christina Miosga

my mothers Maltese 'Birth cert' states they were married at the time of her birth
I don't know if my Grandfather met My Grandmother in England or Malta. as we have both established Roman Miosga lived in Peterborough (coincidence or what) ... I don't know if Christina (nan) Came over with Roman due to the war what I do know though Christina was Catholic not Jewish.

I'm not repeating myself i'm trying to make it easier for you to understand.. lol

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Jun 2013 17:38

Ruth remarried

MarriageFinder: Ruth C A Miosga married George E Bullimore
Name: MIOSGA, Ruth C A
Registration district: Peterborough
County: Northamptonshire
Year of registration: 1971
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Bullimore
Volume no: 4B
Page no: 1016


Name: BULLIMORE, George E
Registration district: Peterborough
County: Northamptonshire
Year of registration: 1971
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Miosga
Volume no: 4B
Page no: 1016

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Jun 2013 17:56

What happened to Christina??

I see a possible remarriage for Eric in 1969 would that be so ??

J_R0BlNS0N

J_R0BlNS0N Report 24 Jun 2013 19:49

Yes he married in 1969 then again in 1977 (he is still with this lady), I'm wandering if he married my Nan abroad I've spent the last 3 hrs studying how the polish came to Britain (I wish now I listened more in History class when learning about WW2 lol)

and I've just created a time line for my Nan and she was probably born very late November 1937 or December 1937.

It should state on Roman's Nationalisation papers where he was born(I cant wait to receive them)

I'am currently reading through all the camps and schools on http://www.polishresettlementcampsintheuk.co.uk/lilfordschool.htm

I thank you so much for you help

J_R0BlNS0N

J_R0BlNS0N Report 24 Jun 2013 20:02

Oh and Christina may have changed the spelling of her name on the birth cert originally it could have been krystyna.

Do you think Roman and Ruth could be my Great Grand parents my Mum's Name is Carol Ann.... maybe Roman and Ruth didn't marry until a bit later in life??? whhoooo im getting excited again lol


I have pieces of paper every where lol

J_R0BlNS0N

J_R0BlNS0N Report 24 Jun 2013 20:12

The only thing I don't get... obviously My Nan's birth was registered in Katowice Poland as that is stated on mums birth cert also it say's Christina was married to Eric so how would there be no trace of a marriage to my granddad in the Uk.... i'm just wandering... No marriage in the Uk there would be no divorce in the Uk
:-S

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Jun 2013 20:27

I looked for their marriage on the forces marriages and also on consular records .none found

If Eric was in the Navy and they lived together then the navy would want proof of marriage to give them married quarters,

Our daughter married an army guy but in our local church. So its not on the Army indices .

They had to produce their marriage cert to be allocated married quarters .

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Jun 2013 20:28

As Eric and Christina were resident in the UK then they could get divorced here

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Jun 2013 20:50

With regard to Roman ,s marriage would say that was more like a second marriage for him. If he is Christina's dad

J_R0BlNS0N

J_R0BlNS0N Report 24 Jun 2013 20:51

Ahhhhh thank you Shirley Im currently going through lists and lists of Polish and German Immagrants to the uk via the boats

Cheers Jay

J_R0BlNS0N

J_R0BlNS0N Report 24 Jun 2013 21:25

Ruth c a / K A ..was born in Austria

J_R0BlNS0N

J_R0BlNS0N Report 24 Jun 2013 22:34

Break through

First Name KRYSTYNA
Last Name HOUGHTON
Gender F
Year 1966
Spouse WADE
Image Quarter 1
Country England
County Northamptonshire
District PETERBOROUGH
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 4B
Page 1188
Line Number 33
Entry Number
Category Life events (BMDs)
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Collections from Great Britain

Spouse MatchSpouse Match: Krystyna HOUGHTON married Douglas J WADE

First Name DOUGLAS J
Last Name WADE
Gender M
Year 1966
Spouse HOUGHTON
Image Quarter 1
Country England
County Northamptonshire
District PETERBOROUGH
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 4B
Page 1188
Line Number 86
Entry Number
Category Life events (BMDs)
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Collections from Great Britain

getting there I think

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Jun 2013 22:44

Thats not coming up on Ancestry which is annoying cos i tried for a marriage for her as Krystna.

Wonder if they show on the electoral rolls

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Jun 2013 22:46

Theres an address in Bognor Regis for a Douglas and Christina on FMP