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Murtagh (Howth,Barrow in Furness & Isle of Man)

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Unknown

Unknown Report 22 Jul 2013 22:56

I am looking for details of my great grandfather John Murtagh who I believe was born in Howth (Dublin) around 1876. He married a lady called Jane Lawlor. They moved to Barrowinfurness and had 3 children, John Gerard, Margaret (married Jack Landon and moved to Denton) and Patrick. Patrick died in 1928 and is buried in Barrow Borough Cemetry along with his mother Jane (1952) and John Murtagh was laid to rest also in 1963 when he was flown from the Isle of Man to be laid to rest.
He worked as a Submarine Builders labourer.
If anyone has any information in relation to my family listed above or prior, I would be most grateful.
Gail Murtagh (Isle of Man)

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Jul 2013 22:58

When and where did John Murtagh marry?

When and where was Jane born?

When and where was each of the children born?

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Jul 2013 22:59

Have you looked in 'search all trees'?

That's where you need to look to if you hope to find links on GR

What research have you done yourself? We don't want to be duplicating what you've done...................

Unknown

Unknown Report 22 Jul 2013 23:01

I am unsure where he married, but am informed that it is likely to be In Howth in Dublin before moving to Barrowinfurness in Cumbria. I am trying totrack down his actual date of birth. I do know that he was Roman Catholic.

Gail Murtagh (Isle of Man)

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Jul 2013 23:04

Try.............

https://familysearch.org/


Barrow in Furness was in Lancashire until 1974

Unknown

Unknown Report 22 Jul 2013 23:04

I have managed to trace his buriel and the dates but cannot get any further records for him as his death certificate in the IOM prior to his transportation to Barrow for buriel does not state his date of birth. Therefore the archives people say that they cannot furnish me with any more details.

Unknown

Unknown Report 22 Jul 2013 23:05

Thank you

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Jul 2013 23:05

Deaths Mar 1952 (>99%)
MURTAGH Jane 69 Barrow F. 10b 214

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Jul 2013 23:07

Is this PATRICK?

Deaths Sep 1928 (>99%)
Murtagh Patrick 20 Kendal 10b 687

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Jul 2013 23:09

Suggest you look at the Irish 1901 and 1911 censuses............free on line.


Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Jul 2013 23:14

Residents of a house 2 in Carrickhill (Malahide, Dublin)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Murtagh John 29 Male Head of Family R Catholic Co Dublin Agrl Labourer Read and write - Married - 5 2 2
Murtagh Jane 26 Female Wife R Catholic Co Dublin - Read and write - Married - 5 2 2
Murtagh Magret 1 Female Son R Catholic Co Dublin - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Gill Hugh 47 Male Daughter R Catholic Co Dublin - - - Single - - - -
Murtagh Patrick 2 Male Boarder R Catholic Co Dublin Agl Labourer Read and write - Singl

Ignore some of the info..................the transcription of some of it is ludicrous.

Corrections submitted

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Jul 2013 23:21

Your estimate of John's birth does not match the census info

The son John Gerard was not born until 1920 - he married in 1941 and 1945. info is on freebmd

DOB's are not on certs before 1969

You may have to settle for knowing the year of his birth

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Jul 2013 23:24

1901

Residents of a house 3 in Kilbarrack Upper (Howth, Dublin)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Cox David 15 Male Boarder Roman Catholic Longford Agricultural Labourer Read and write - Not Married -
Murtagh John 23 Male Boarder Roman Catholic City Dublin Agricultural Labourer Read and write - Not Married -
Fagan Alice 16 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Baldoyle - Read and write - Not Married -
Fagan Eliza 20 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Baldoyle - Read and write - Not Married -
Fagan Richard 58 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Sowrds, Co Dublin Agricultural Labourer Read only - Married -
Fagan Christopher 11 Male Son Roman Catholic Baldoyle Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Fagan James 18 Male Son Roman Catholic Baldoyle Agricultural Labourer Read and write - Not Married -
Fagan Michael 25 Male Son Roman Catholic Baldoyle Agricultural Labour Read and write - Not Married -
Fagan John 28 Male Son Roman Catholic Baldoyle Agricultural Labour Cannot read - Not Married -
Fagan Dan 14 Male Son Roman Catholic Baldoyle Agricultural Labourer Read and write - Not Married -
Fagan Esther 56 Female Wife Roman Catholic Baldoyle - Read only - Married -
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Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Jul 2013 23:27


He could be one of these..........................but no way of knowing until you find a marriage and get the cert

John Murtagh
Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
birth: 16 September 1875 Dublin, Ireland
residence: 1875 Ireland
parents: Peter Murtagh, Margaret Mc Cormack

John Murtagh
Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
birth: 22 November 1877 Dublin, Ireland
residence: 1877 Ireland
parents: John Murtagh, Margaret Murtagh Connor
John Murtagh
Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Jul 2013 23:34



This looks promising.................although I have no direct experience of Irish BMD records, and do not know whether the image number is hugely significant..............


Name: John Murtagh
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: Apr - Jun 1907
Event Place: Dublin North, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1907
Registration District: Dublin North
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 507
GS Film number: 101261
Digital Folder Number: 004199363
Image Number: 00216



Name: Jane Lawlor
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: Apr - Jun 1907
Event Place: Dublin North, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1907
Registration District: Dublin North
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 507
GS Film number: 101261
Digital Folder Number: 004199363
Image Number: 00208

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Jul 2013 23:46

Marriages Jun 1934 (>99%)
Murtagh Margaret Landon Manchester S. 8d 469

Look for children on freebmd.......................

Death

Name: LANDON, Margaret
Registration district: Trowbridge
County: Wiltshire
Year of registration: 1996
Month of registration: March
Date of Birth:24 October 1910
District no: 7971
Reg no: 19C
Ent no: 261
DOR: 396


Death
Name: LANDON, Jack
Registration district: Trowbridge
County: Wiltshire
Year of registration: 1987
Month of registration: February
Date of Birth:28 July 1906
Volume no: 23
Page no: 2505
Reg no: 287

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Jul 2013 23:50

Marriages Sep 1941 (>99%)

Holman Zena M Murtagh Barrow F. 8e 2471
Murtagh John G Holman Barrow F. 8e 2471

Deaths Dec 1944 (>99%)
Murtagh Zena M 24 Ulverston 8e 913

No children........................

Four children born to second wife...........details on freebmd.

Unknown

Unknown Report 23 Jul 2013 09:18

Thank you.

Can Dublin Marriage Certificates be obtained through the same Records Office in London?

Reggie

Reggie Report 23 Jul 2013 09:19

No................they have to be applied for in Ireland, where the event was registered

google "Irish bmd"

Unknown

Unknown Report 23 Jul 2013 18:34

Hi,

Been trying to find the details that you have listed above online in relation to John Murtagh and Jane Lawlors marriage in Dublin North, Ireland. Could you please advise of the link that you got this from please so I can research further please.
Gail