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coutts, gale

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tracy

tracy Report 28 Aug 2013 21:43

i am trying to find any information on or about arthur james coutts. His parents lived at 15 golf crescent aboyne in scotland. In 1942 he married elsie gale in st johns the babtists church bere regis dorset england. He had a daughter with elsie called shirley, born in 1944, but i dont know if they were divorced before or after her birth.On the 1/1/1949 arthur was awarded The British Empire Medal (military division) from the king. (633230 Flight Sergeant Arthur James Coutts). This took place at st james palace. i believe he had a sister called isabel.

patchem

patchem Report 28 Aug 2013 21:50

If married in 1942, difficult to be divorced by 1944. Why do you think they were?

How did you get back to him, and what information are you looking for - death, other marriages, names of parents?

Have you got his marriage certificate to Elsie?

Thank-you

Reggie

Reggie Report 28 Aug 2013 21:50

ONE post per topic.....................

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1329676

You were advised to buy his marriage cert.....................

Reggie

Reggie Report 28 Aug 2013 21:54

Tracy is the daughter's daughter!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 29 Aug 2013 12:16

One of these would be his birth - most likely the Aboyne one?

1 1887 COUTTS ARTHUR JAMES M BIRSE /ABERDEEN 175/00 0001
2 1917 COUTTS ARTHUR JAMES M BIRSE /ABERDEEN 175/00 0003 No Image
3 1920 COUTTS ARTHUR JAMES M ABOYNE /ABERDEEN 170/00 0006 No Image
4 1938 COUTTS ARTHUR JAMES F M ABERDEEN NORTHERN DISTRICT ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN 168/01 0585 No Image
5 1915 COUTTS ARTHUR JAMES FO M MARNOCH /BANFF 161/00 0011 No Image
6 1891 COUTTS JAMES ARTHUR M TINGWALL /SHETLAND 010/01 0007
7 1903 COUTTS JAMES ARTHUR M DUNFERMLINE /FIFE 424/00 0671
8 1920 COUTTS JAMES ARTHUR SA M ST MACHAR ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN 168/02 0276


Births after 1912 are not available to view online, you would have to order the certificate.


And deaths...

1 1950 COUTTS ARTHUR JAMES M 63 ABERDEEN EASTERN DISTRICT ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN 168/03 0223
2 1996 COUTTS ARTHUR JAMES Not Permissible M 79 ABOYNE /ABERDEEN 330/00 0024 No Image
3 2007 COUTTS ARTHUR JAMES Not Permissible M 87 ABOYNE /ABERDEEN 330/00 0019 No Image
4 1990 COUTTS ARTHUR JAMES FO Not Permissible M 75 PETERCULTER ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN CITY 324/00 0068 No Image
5 1913 COUTTS JAMES ARTHUR M 22 TINGWALL /SHETLAND 010/01 0014
6 1972 COUTTS JAMES ARTHUR Not Permissible M 68 GLASGOW, MARTHA ST GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 603/00 0777 No Image
7 1927 COUTTS JAMES ARTHUR PR STEWART DUNBAR M 36 POSSILPARK GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/07 0482
8 1945 COUTTS JAMES ARTHUR SA M 25 SERVICE RETURNS / 155/AF 0106


The 2007 death in Aboyne would tie in with the 1920 birth in Aboyne.

Again you would have to order the certificate to check if he is your Arthur James.

FAIRTHORN

FAIRTHORN Report 29 Aug 2013 12:39

If indeed above 2007 death is correct

there is a gentleman aged 45-49 possible son at same address as Arthur James Coutts

address/telephone number sent <<<<<<<<<<<<

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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 29 Aug 2013 12:46

Looks like he did return to Scotland. He divorced Elsie in Scotland.

Reference Title Date
CS258 Court of Session: Unextracted Processes, 4th arrangement 1935-1994
Country code GB
Repository code 234
Repository National Records of Scotland
Reference CS258/40904
Title Arthur J Coutts v Elsie DM Gale or Coutts: Divorce
Dates 1955
Access status Open

Location Off site
Description 2224
Level Item


You can order copies of the divorce papers from the National Archives of Scotland.

FAIRTHORN

FAIRTHORN Report 29 Aug 2013 12:49

one telephone call can save buying ALL the certificates etc





:-D

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 29 Aug 2013 12:53

That's true Fairthorn.

I only looked for the divorce in Scotland on the off chance that it would provide some evidence that he may have returned to Scotland.

:-D

FAIRTHORN

FAIRTHORN Report 29 Aug 2013 12:59

rootgatherer


Only looked cos of your found data

easy when someone else has done the research ;-)

looks possible Shirley has a half-brother at least

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FAIRTHORN

FAIRTHORN Report 29 Aug 2013 13:01

SOD ME ........... it is the same original address :-S


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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 30 Aug 2013 12:29

Coutts is a fairly common name in Aberdeenshire - I even have some of them on my tree! It does help a bit that there aren't very many Arthurs.

Just in the passing, I have been to Aboyne when researching my OHs Aberdeenshire ancestors and it is a lovely place. I seem to remember that we had a great value delicious meal in a hotel there.