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Senior family from silkstone or tankerley.

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Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 26 Sep 2013 11:30

Thank you for all you recent info most of it confirmed, but the occasional use of an alternate surname certainly 'spices up the game'.
I have a copy of the marriage certificate of Joe Ben Wilcock and Annie Lees dated 9th April 1882 in the Parish of St Luke PRESTON.

It is interesting on this certificate to see that the Grooms Father is William 'Wilcock'. He would have a lifetimes experience of the embarrasment of using two surnames,
i think that this may be a 'facesaver' to use a term that you used earlier.
"Could Joe Ben have given this name in Williams absence ? HE knew his true surname at birth but he would have known William (Senior ) as his father for 20 years, this of course is speculation on my part.
Many thanks Geoff.





Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 19 Sep 2013 10:29

Reggie, thank you for all the info that you have sent to which I have failed to reply. Everything that i have been able to verify is absolutely correct, and 1 or 2 'holes' have been filled.
I am now getting to understand the system a little better and will try to reply promptly her-after.
geoff.

Reggie

Reggie Report 17 Sep 2013 22:00

1911 census


Person: SENIOR, Esther Address: 70 Brampton Road West Melton Rotherham

SENIOR, Walter Husband Married M 47 1864 Coal Miner Hewer Holmfirth VIEW
SENIOR, Sarah Wife Married24 years F 46 1865 Domestic Duties West Melton VIEW
SENIOR, Matilda Daughter Single F 22 1889 Drapery Manageress Birdwell VIEW
SENIOR, Albert Son Single M 19 1892 Coal Miner Hewer Birdwell VIEW
SENIOR, Horace Son Single M 17 1894 Pony Driver Under Ground Silkston Common VIEW
SENIOR, Elsie Daughter Single F 16 1895 Assisting At Home Birdwell VIEW
SENIOR, Gladys Daughter Single F 14 1897 Assisting At Home Birdwell VIEW
SENIOR, Doris Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Silkstone Common VIEW
SENIOR, Esther Mother Widow F 73 1838 Pensioner Cawthorne

Reggie

Reggie Report 17 Sep 2013 21:57

Marriages Mar 1862

Wilcocks Esther Huddersfield 9a [38]33
Senior William Huddersfield 9a 333

Now try to get in touch with the other member researching EMILY

Also, use freebmd to carry out research yourself..............there's a lot of info on page one for you to work on................

Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 17 Sep 2013 18:53

Once again, thank you for bearing with me.
To the best of my knowledge there is no dispute that William Senior 1831 was the father of all other children in his family, I think he had 4 children by his first wife.
I believe that he married Esther Wilcock on 2 January 1862 (not confirmed) who brought Joe Ben Wilcock ( father not named) into the Senior family, they proceeded to have 8or 9 children together.
My grandfather Joe Ben was buried in Royston nor Barnsley with the name Joe Ben Wilcock on the brass plaque on his coffin. I presume he was never officially adopted into the Senior family.
He was known all his life and employed on the railway as Joe Ben Senior.
Thanks for your help so far ,
Geoff Wilcock.

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Sep 2013 09:08

At least one other member has EMILY in her GR tree.....send her a message.

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Sep 2013 09:03

Use freebmd to find info...........................

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

I've given you names...................look for them in 'search all trees'

And, if you can find a marriage for Esther and William, you have access to resources that I don't

Some comment on what I've posted would not go amiss

BTW....the reference to a 'father' on Joe Ben's marriage is clearly a face-saver - whoever he was, I doubt that his surname was Wilcock.

Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 14 Sep 2013 08:52

I am a novice at this site,I will, with a little forbearance master it.
The Joe ben in the above tree was the son of Esther 1839 but William is not mentioned on Joebens Birth certificate, William and Esther married some time later.
At the time of Joe bens birth Esther was a spinster and William had recently lost his first wife.
Joe ben was buried as Joe Ben Wilcock.
I am seeking to trace descendants of Seniors Born after 1863.
Hope you get this message Geoff.

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Sep 2013 08:41

Geoffrey

You have obviously found your way back here , and managed to 'mark as answered'......however, some feedback ON THE THREAD would be appreciated

See the box below........................................

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Sep 2013 23:15

Some more info by PM............

Esther Wilcock married William Senior 1831a year or two after Joe Ben's birth , he already had 4 children {Seniors to his late wife).
They had a further 8 children together, Joe Ben remained a Wilcock.

NO trace of any such marriage that I can see................

BUT...........................

1871 census


Person: SENIOR, Esther Address: Pilley Colliery, Tankersley

SENIOR, William Head M 40 1831 Yorkshire VIEW
SENIOR, Esther Wife F 32 1839 Yorkshire VIEW
SENIOR, Guy Son M 20 1851 Yorkshire VIEW
SENIOR, Ellen Daughter F 16 1855 Yorkshire VIEW
SENIOR, Alfred Son M 15 1856 Yorkshire VIEW
SENIOR, Allen Son M 13 1858 Yorkshire VIEW
SENIOR, John Son M 12 1859 Yorkshire VIEW
SENIOR, Joeben Son M 10 1861 Yorkshire VIEW
SENIOR, Priscilla Daughter F 8 1863 Yorkshire VIEW
SENIOR, Walter Son M 7 1864 Yorkshire VIEW
SENIOR, James H Son M 5 1866 Yorkshire VIEW
SENIOR, Emily Daughter F 1 1870 Yorkshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Sep 2013 16:50

Confirmation of the accuracy and relevance of the data

Marriages Dec 1859 (>99%)

Horne Michael Wortley 9c 263
Wilcock Tamar Wortley 9c 263

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Sep 2013 16:49

Same girl in 1851

1851 census


Person: WILCOCK, Esther Address: Berry Moor

WILCOCK, Benjamin Head Married M 38 1813 Labourer At Coal Pits
Cawthorne, Yorkshire VIEW
WILCOCK, Tamar Wife Married F 43 1808
High Hoyland, Yorkshire VIEW
WILCOCK, Esther Daughter Unmarried F 12 1839 Scholar
Cawthorne, Yorkshire VIEW
EARNSHAW, Hannah Lodger F 8 1843 Scholar
Thurgoland, Yorkshire VIEW
WILSON, John Lodger Unmarried M 31 1820 Coal Miner
Preston, Lancashire

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Sep 2013 16:47

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1861 census


Person: WILCOCK, Esther Address: 11, Coates, Thurgoland

DARWENT, Samuel Head Married M 45 1816 Agricultural Labourer
Thurgoland, Yorkshire VIEW
DARWENT, Matilda Wife Married F 40 1821
Thurgoland, Yorkshire VIEW
DARWENT, Lucy F Daughter F 0 (6M) 1861
Thurgoland, Yorkshire VIEW
WILCOCK, Esther Servant F 22 1839 General Servant
Cawthorne, Yorkshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Sep 2013 16:42

Marriage: 9 Apr 1882 St Luke, Preston, Lancashire, England
Joe Ben Wilcock - 21, Pork Butcher, Bachelor, 11 Tyne Street
Annie Lees - 21, Weaver, Spinster, 102 Porter Street
Groom's Father: William Wilcock, Labourer
Bride's Father: Peter Lees, Painter
Witness: Robert Holmes; J E Richardson
Married by Banns by: E. Over
Notes: [Groom signed 'J B Willcock' ]
Register: Marriages 1864 - 1888, Page 150, Entry 300
Source: LDS Film 1471020

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Sep 2013 16:38

1861 census


Person: WILCOCK, Joe B Address: Berry Moor, Thurgoland

HORNE, Michael Head Married M 56 1805 Coal Miner
Thurgoland, Yorkshire VIEW
HORNE, Tamer Wife Married F 54 1807
High Hoyland, Yorkshire VIEW
HORNE, Joshua Son Unmarried M 21 1840 Coal Miner
Thurgoland, Yorkshire VIEW
HORNE, Joshe Son Unmarried M 16 1845 Coal Miner
Thurgoland, Yorkshire VIEW
HORNE, Sarah Ann Daughter Unmarried F 14 1847
Thurgoland, Yorkshire VIEW
HORNE, Ben Son M 10 1851 Scholar
Thurgoland, Yorkshire VIEW
WILCOCK, Joe B Grandson In Law M 0 (10M) 1861
Thurgoland, Yorkshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Sep 2013 16:34

A glimmer...............

Births Jun 1860 (>99%)
WILCOCK Joe Ben Wortley 9c 157


Marriages Jun 1882 (>99%)

Lees Annie Preston 8e 876
Martindale Mary Alice Preston 8e 876
TOPPING Richard Preston 8e 876
WILCOCK Joe Ben Preston 8e 876

From LANCS BMD

WILCOCK Joe Ben LEES Annie Preston, St Luke Preston 231/1/300


Deaths Jun 1939 (>99%)
Wilcock Joe B 79 Staincross 9c 260

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Sep 2013 16:29

Sent to me by PM

my fathers name was Norman Wilcock /Senior
His. "". "". "". Joe Ben Wilcock / Senior all his siblings were called Senior.
His mother was. Esther Wilcock. Father not stated.

I have asked Geoffrey to return to this thread..........more than once, but to no avail

Reggie

Reggie Report 11 Sep 2013 11:50

Marriages Mar 1912 (>99%)
Parsons Jane H Senior Ecclesall B. 9c 467
Senior John G G Parsons Ecclesall B. 9c 467
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Deaths Dec 1960 (>99%)
SENIOR John G G 82 Sheffield 2d 207

Reggie

Reggie Report 11 Sep 2013 11:47

1881 census

Person: SENIOR, John G Address: Rose Hill Cottage, Dodworth

SENIOR, John G Head Married M 39 1842 Commercial Clerk Earthenware
Dodworth, Yorkshire VIEW
SENIOR, Mary Ann Wife Married F 34 1847
Barnsley, Yorkshire VIEW
SENIOR, Sarah Jane Daughter Single F 14 1867
Chesterfield, Derbyshire VIEW
SENIOR, Betsy Gertrude Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Dodworth, Yorkshire VIEW
SENIOR, John George G Son Single M 3 1878
Dodworth, Yorkshire VIEW
W SENIOR, William H Son Single M 0 1881
Dodworth, Yorkshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 11 Sep 2013 11:45

????????

Death
Name: WILCOCK, Norman H
Registration district: Staincross
County: YorkshireYear of registration: 1959
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death:69
Volume no: 2D
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