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ezme

ezme Report 24 Sep 2013 20:57

wortley family ,my father ernest siblings john,james,william ethel,florrence.please any relations. <3

patchem

patchem Report 24 Sep 2013 21:07

Welcome to the boards, Brenda

Are you looking for husbands and wives of your father's siblings, or ancestors or children?

Where have you looked for any leads?

Thank-you

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Sep 2013 21:08

You need to enlarge on what you are looking for,and what you know already about the family

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

patchem

patchem Report 24 Sep 2013 21:12

This family?
1911 England Census
Albert Wortley Age in 1911: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Gender: Male Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Islington County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 29 Muriel St, Islington N
Marital Status: Married Occupation: GOLDSMITH
Registration District: Islington Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration District: Barnsbury ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Piece: 883
Albert Wortley 30
Florence Wortley 29
Berter Wortley 9
Willie Wortley 4
Earnie Wortley 0
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 883.

patchem

patchem Report 24 Sep 2013 21:21

This might be Brenda's Father's marriage:
Marriages Mar 1929
Elliott Rosetta L Wortley Islington 1b 237
WORTLEY Ernest Elliott Islington 1b 237

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Sep 2013 21:30

????

Marriages Jun 1919
Penna Florence Wortley Islington 1b 800
Wortley Albert J Penna Islington 1b 800

Marriages Jun 1900
Newman Florence Islington 1b 375 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Nock Maria Islington 1b 375
Penna William Islington 1b 375 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Stratford William George Islington 1b 375



Births Mar 1912
Wortley James Newman Islington 1b 529
Wortley John Newman Islington 1b 529

Name: James Wortley
Birth Date: 4 Feb 1912
Date of Registration: Feb 2002
Age at Death: 90
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Hertfordshire, Middlesex
Register Number: D7E
District and Subdistrict: 2191D
Entry number: 61

Name: John Wortley
Birth Date: abt 1912
Date of Registration: Jun 1955
Age at Death: 43
Registration District: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5e
Page: 483



Births Mar 1916 Wortley Rose J Newman Islington 1b 485

Name: Rose J Wortley
Birth Date: abt 1916
Date of Registration: Dec 1917
Age at Death: 1
Registration District: Holborn
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 621



Births Sep 1921 Wortley Ethel V Newman Islington 1b 441

Births Mar 1925 Wortley Ronald Newman Islington 1b 355

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Sep 2013 21:42

Name: Albert William Penna
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 28 May 1902
Father's Name: William Penna, House Decorator
Mother's Name: Florence Penna
Parish or Poor Law Union: Pentonville St Silas
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Sep 2013 21:49

1911

Name: William Penna
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Salford, Chester, England
Civil Parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 233 and 235 Liverpool Road, Islington N
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: PAINTERS DECORATOR
Registration District: Islington
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration District: Barnsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 873
Household Members:
Name Age

Annie Brown 62 Mother
William Penna 34 Son Married 11 years no children (Scored out)
Sarah Clark 29 Visitor


PENNA, WILLIAM

Rank: Private
Service No: 203985
Date of Death: 16/08/1917
Regiment/Service: London Regiment (Royal Fusiliers) 1st Bn.
Panel Reference Panel 52.
Memorial YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

Additional Information:

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Sep 2013 22:00

????

Marriages Sep 1932
Hardingham Ivy M Wortley Islington 1b 379
Wortley James Hardingham Islington 1b 379


Marriages Dec 1933
Norman Ethel M Wortley Islington 1b 311
Wortley John Norman Islington 1b 311


Marriages Sep 1941
Harris James H Wortley Islington 1b 328
Wortley Ethel V Harris Islington 1b 328

Marriages Jun 1943
Stuart Joan I Wortley Islington 1b 392
Wortley Ronald Stuart Islington 1b 392

ezme

ezme Report 24 Sep 2013 22:33

Hi Thank you for your help,yes my Father was Ernest born 1909 Islington to Albert J Joseph and Florence Newman. Also William ,John and James Twins, Ronald,Ethel Florence all born in Islington,May be the name Penna comes in some where but i have not long started my research .Also I would love to find some living relatives .Ever hopeful Brenda :-D

patchem

patchem Report 24 Sep 2013 22:58

Have you looked in Search/Search All Member Trees (Top right) to see if anyone on here has any of your family in their trees?
If they do, you can then try and make contact with them for more information.

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 Sep 2013 23:01

Why have you 'marked as answered'?

Do you not require any further assistance?

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 Sep 2013 23:14

In 1911, the couple claim to have been married for 11 years, but there is no record of such a marriage,which isn't surprising, as.........................

Florence, nee Newman, was, at the time, married to Mr Penna...................she didn't marry Albert until 1919, as per info posted above

She had to wait for her husband to die in WW1 before she could marry the father of her children

Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
Wortley James Newman Islington 1b 529
Wortley John Newman Islington 1b 529

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Wortley Rose J Newman Islington 1b 485

Births Mar 1918 (>99%)
Wortley Florence Newman Holborn 1b 694

Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Wortley Ethel V Newman Islington 1b 441

Births Mar 1925 (>99%)
Wortley Ronald Newman Islington 1b 355

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 Sep 2013 23:25

A site you cannot manage without..............put it in your favourites, and get used to using it

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Sep 2013 23:51

You have marked this as replied. Has you answered your question please?

patchem

patchem Report 25 Sep 2013 07:14

From that 1911 census that I posted, the first son, 'Berter', was baptised as a Penna, as given by rootgatherer, whilst 'Willie' was registered as a Wortley.

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Sep 2013 08:52

'belt & braces' on the oldest child's birth.......................

Births Jun 1902 (>99%)
Penna Albert William Holborn 1b 670

..however, in view of the 1911 census for Florence's husband at the time, one would have to doubt that he was actually a Penna

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Sep 2013 11:44

The best way to try to make connections is to put your tree on here..................as far as I can see, you have not yet done so

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Sep 2013 11:47

You've been given the death registrations for the twins

Buy the later one, for the informant's details. he/she may still be at the address given on the cert

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Sep 2013 11:49

Rose didn't survive long................

Deaths Dec 1917 (>99%)
Wortley Rose J 1 Holborn 1b 621