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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 May 2014 17:59

What an interesting site, John - thanks for that link.

John

John Report 26 May 2014 16:16

Hi ArgyllGran. I went on the site - recordsearch. naa.gov.au - to find out more about John and it looks like he lived with his Aunt Miss Elizabeth Rebecca Horwood. Take a look and you will be find it most interesting. It certainly cleared one thing up for me, I wondered why the crew were buried on the 25thJune, 13 days after the crash but reading the info on this site, it appears only my dad R L Lewis was buried then because he was found later under the aircraft, presume when they started taking the wreckage away. For a while they mentioned only 6 crew and the mother of John thought he was a POW, I expect because my dad's body had not been recovered until later and of course the uncertainty until after the war when more information came to light . Take a look AG. Regards John

John

John Report 25 May 2014 23:01

Took note about the Betty Fury topic. Re the funeral of Charlotte Horwood, I see it states Mr & Mrs J Fury and family so that must have been children John and Betty. I have been on the Peter Dunn World at War site, this evening. It was through Peter Dunn that I found the names of the other crew members 14 yrs ago ('that's how long I have been looking for families of the crew) and I noticed he was born in Townsville in 1948 so have contacted him in hope that he may have known the Horwoods, Fury or Jones families Jones being the married name of Betty Fury . Never know if Betty had children Peter Dunn may have gone to school with one of them. Regards John.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 May 2014 14:30

Note "Mr and Mrs J Fury and family" in this funeral notice. Of course, John Harold was still alive at that time.

Townsville Daily Bulletin, 16th November 1935.

The friends and relatives of Mr John Horwood, Mr A Parker and family ( Brisbane), Mr and Mrs Geo Horwood and family, Mr and Mrs Seth Horwood and family, Mrs M McWilliams and family (Sydney), Mrs L Horwood, Mr and Mrs A Cornish and family (Innisfall), Mr and Mrs T Gleeson (Cloncurry), Mr and Mrs J Fury and family and Mr Harold Horwood are respectfully invited to attend the funeral of their lae beloved wife, mother, grandmother, and great grandmother, Charlotte Horwood, which will move from her late residence, Cr. Livingstone and Church Streets, West End, this Saturday afternoon at 4 o'clock (New Cemetery)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 May 2014 14:15

The Townsville daily bulletin, in which MarieCeleste found the Roll of Honour mention of John Harold Horwood (the image shows his parents as Mr & Mrs J Fury, not I Fury as in the transcription) also has a further insertion in his honour, inserted by "his aunt and uncle, T and F Gleeson".

So the marriage of Fanny Horwood to Thomas Gleeson, which I posted on page 1, is correct.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 May 2014 13:40

For the sake of anyone else reading this thread -

Linked thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1340829

[EDIT: Now deleted.]

John

John Report 25 May 2014 00:20

Hi ArgyllGran. I have found a marriage for Betty Fury in Townsville only daughter to Mr & Mrs J Fury, Cook Street Townsville 15th Oct 1948 to a Henry Jones. So Betty was the half sister of John. Will try and find a death for Alice Fury in any Townsville newspapers to see if it states an address as Cook Street

John

John Report 24 May 2014 23:00

Hi ArgyllGran, tell me about senior moments!!!!!!! You are not on your,own. Well it looks like on the Roll of Honour it states a Betty, she could be a stepsister Will look on Ancestry and see what comes up, interesting.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 May 2014 16:35

The birth records for Australia on Ancestry don't show births later than 1922, unfortunately.

You probably need someone in the Townsville area (or wherever the records are kept) to have a look at more recent records for you.

Perhaps if you edited the title of this thread to include the word Australia, it might attract an Australian member to read it.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 May 2014 16:27

He was described as "son and brother" here (but could it be stepbrother?):

ROLL OF HONOUR
HORWOOD.— Fondest memories of our dear son and brother. Flt./Sgt. John Harold Horwood, also the six members of his crew, who lost their lives In Holland, returning from operations on Dusseldorf, 12th June. 1943
Resting where no shadows fell.
You gave for us— your life—your all.
(Inserted by Mr. and Mrs. I. Fury and Betty).

Townsville Daily Bulletin (Qld. : 1885 - 1954) Wednesday 12 June 1946

From Trove http://trove.nla.gov.au/

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 May 2014 16:13

???


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about James Fury
Name: James Fury
Spouse Name: Alice Harwood
Marriage Date: 20 Nov 1922
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1922
Registration Number: 002855
Page Number: 1285

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 May 2014 16:10

Sorry, John - senior moment!
She was 56 when she died, not when she married.


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Alice Fury
Name: Alice Fury
Death Date: 4 Aug 1950
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: John Horwood
Mother's name: Charlotte Smith
Registration Year: 1950
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: 004045

John

John Report 23 May 2014 22:08

Looking through all the info you sent Alice Fury nee Horwood died age 56 but in 1943 her and James Fury were stated on Johns Horwoods records so they must have got married before 1943.

John

John Report 23 May 2014 22:06

Looking through all the info you sent Alice Fury nee Horwood died age 56 but in 1943 her and James Fury were stated on Johns Horwoods records so they must have got married before 1943.

John

John Report 23 May 2014 21:55

Thanks for looking up Johns birth, I did wonder if he was illegitimate. I don't suppose he had siblings seeing the age his mother married. Appreciate your help ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 May 2014 13:49

Alice would have no children with James Fury, as she was 56 when they married.

As John's birth was illegitimate, it is likely (though one can never be sure!) that he was an only child.

John

John Report 21 May 2014 23:31

Hello ArgyllGran. Many thanks for the additional info. I have just been on Ancestry and sent a message to someone on the Horwwod tree but I have a funny feeling that John was an only child so maybe too remove from the family for anyone to be interested in my information. Just have to wait and see.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2014 23:07

Fanny married, so maybe there will be some living relatives descended form her:


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Fanny Horwood
Name: Fanny Horwood
Spouse Name: Thomas Gleeson
Marriage Date: 7 Sep 1928
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1928
Registration Number: 002207
Page Number: 1884

[EDIT: Well, it might not be her, after all.
Here's the death of a son of a Fanny Horwood, but with a different father:

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about George Cole
Name: George Cole
Death Date: 5 Mar 1930
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: George Reginald Cole
Mother's name: Fanny Horwood
Registration Year: 1930
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: B010422

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2014 23:06

Elizabeth Rebecca never married:


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Elizabeth Rebecca Horwood
Name: Elizabeth Rebecca Horwood
Death Date: 11 Mar 1961
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: John
Mother's name: Charlotte Smith
Registration Year: 1961
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: 001337
Page Number: 1342

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 May 2014 23:02

Elizabeth Rebecca was her sister:

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Elizabeth Rebecca Horwood
Name: Elizabeth Rebecca Horwood
Birth Date: 9 Nov 1888
Father's Name: John Horwood
Mother's name: Charlotte Smith
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 6979
Registration Number: 010962

Other siblings:


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Mary Horwood
Name: Mary Horwood
Birth Date: 26 May 1886
Father's Name: John Horwood
Mother's name: Charlotte Smith
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 6979
Registration Number: 009554


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Betsy Ann Horwood
Name: Betsy Ann Horwood
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1891
Father's Name: John Horwood
Mother's name: Charlotte Smith
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 12198
Registration Number: 011482



Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Fanny Horwood
Name: Fanny Horwood
Birth Date: 21 Dec 1892
Father's Name: John Horwood
Mother's name: Charlotte Smith
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 12199
Registration Number: 011088