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kristel

kristel Report 13 Jun 2015 19:41

Hi I'm looking for any relatives of leonard ernest Albert pilcher he was my grandfather, married to kathleen m pilcher was beckhurst they had a son Thomas Albert pilcher he was my father, would love to find some relatives out there.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Jun 2015 19:53

Have you got their marriage cert It will give their ages at marriage and fathers names if known

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Jun 2015 19:58


First name(s) LEONARD E A
Last name PILCHER
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1928
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ LEONARD E A PILCHER married
KATHLEEN M BECKHURST
Spouse's last name BECKHURST
District WEST ASHFORD
District number -
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 2271
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain


Only the one son so you will have to look sideways for family of Leonard and Kathleen
Take a look on freebmd for their births and then possible siblings

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Jun 2015 20:02

So he was 58 at passing which gives you circa birth of 1905

Deaths Sep 1963
PILCHER LEONARD E A 58 ASHFORD 5B 2

Births Sep 1904 (>99%)
Pilcher Leonard Ernest A W Ashford 2a 935

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Jun 2015 20:14

So born circa 1903

Deaths Jun 1963
PILCHER KATHLEEN M 60 ASHFORD 5B 35


Births Sep 1903
Beckhurst Kathleen May. Alton 2c 192

Born Hampshire

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Jun 2015 20:20

1911 census

England & Scotland Census Transcription
Lower Froyle Alton Hampshire, Froyle, Hampshire, England

W James Beckhurst Head Married Male Bricklayer Labourer 36 1875 Lasham Hants

Alice Beckhurst Wife - Female - 46 1865 Froyle Hants

Richard James Beckhurst Son - Male School 11 1900 Froyle Hants

Kathleen Beckhurst Daughter - Female School 7 1904 Froyle Hants

kristel

kristel Report 13 Jun 2015 21:45

this is the same infomation that i have in front of me i had my grandparents marrige certificate in front of me earlier and the witnesses they had was walter albert pilcher and florence edith pilcher

kristel

kristel Report 13 Jun 2015 21:46

leonards father was thomas walter pilcher

kristel

kristel Report 13 Jun 2015 21:48

i believe they were both 24

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Jun 2015 21:54

so you need to look for their siblings parents uncles and aunts etc

Look in search members trees to if any family are in them

Its unlikely that family will just pop up with info .you will need to search and maybe buy some certs



kristel

kristel Report 13 Jun 2015 22:13

i dont know if my dad had any siblings my mother told me that there could of been a brother but he was either the product of an affair or an unwanted child and i think she said his name was john but cant be sure ive bought some certificates but they are hard to read

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jun 2015 08:32

There is only your dad listed to grandparents so if there was a john he would be reg under his mums name if he was illigitimate

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jun 2015 09:11

Not picking the family up on the 1911 census

Possible one on the 1901

Do you have Leonard's birth cert for both parents names ?

Wonder about this one ?

First name(s) THOMAS WALTER
Last name PILCHER
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1900
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ THOMAS WALTER PILCHER married one of these people
MARY ANNIE BRUNGER, KATE EDITH BRIGGS
District WEST ASHFORD
District number -
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 1672
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

1901 England & Scotland Census Transcription
Whitfeld Cottages, 9, Ashford, West Ashford, Kent, England


Thomas Pilcher Head Married Male 25 1876 S E & C R Engine Stoker Ashford, Kent, England Transcription
Kate Pilcher Wife Married Female 31 1870 - Bethersden, Kent, England


First name(s) Thomas Walter
Last name Pilcher
Gender Male
Marital status -
Occupation -
Event year 1911
Birth year -
Age at death -
Burial year 1911
Burial date 01 Jul 1911
Burial place Ashford, Kent, England
Place Ashford
County Kent
Country England
Record set England Deaths & Burials 1538-1991
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jun 2015 09:30

Ahhhhh ancestry picks them up and it the right parents

Leonard E R Pilcher in the 1911 England Census. ( E A on the census have done a correction
Name: Leonard E A Pilcher
Age in 1911: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Ashford, Kent
Civil Parish: Ashford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 48 Lower Denmark Rd, Ashford, Kent
Registration district: West Ashford
Registration District Number: 55
Sub-registration district: Ashford
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 261
Piece: 4266
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Walter Pilcher 35 occ fireman on the railway
Kate Edith Pilcher 41
Leonard E R Pilcher 6
Florence Edith Pilcher 18months
Class: RG14; Piece: 4266; Schedule Number: 261
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011
Married 11 years 2 children born

So the witness Florence Edith is his sister

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jun 2015 09:40

Kate remarried
Name: Kate E Pilcher
Spouse Surname: Minter
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1916
Registration district: West Ashford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1979
Find Spouse: Joe Minter

No children from the marriage

Her death

Deaths Dec 1945
Minter Kate E 75 Ashford 2a 1714

Her husband
Deaths Dec 1965
MINTER JOE 83 DARTFORD 5F 384

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jun 2015 09:58

1881 census

Name: Thomas W. Pilcher
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship to Head: Son (Child)
Father: Walter A. Pilcher
Mother: Emily A. Pilcher
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashford, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Ashford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 4 Regents Pl
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: West Ashford
Sub registration district: Ashford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 947
Folio: 23
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter A. Pilcher 27 occ blacksmith born Ashford Kent
Emily A. Pilcher 28
Thomas W. Pilcher 5
Ernest F. Pilcher 1


So the other witnes on Leonard's marriage was his grandad.Walter Albert as his own dad had passed away in 1911

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jun 2015 10:04


1891 census
Name: Thomas W Pilcher
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: Walter A Pilcher
Mother's name: Emily A Pilcher
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashford, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Ashford
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashford St Mary
Town: Ashford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ashford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 699
Folio: 67
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter A Pilcher 37 occ general smith
Emily A Pilcher 40 born Bede Sussex
Thomas W Pilcher 15
Ernest F Pilcher 12
Edith E Pilcher 8
Florence E Pilcher 4

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jun 2015 10:13

1901 census

Name: Walter A Pilcher
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Emily A Pilcher
Birth Place: Ashford, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Ashford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary the Virgin
Town: Ashford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:3 Tufton road

Occupation:General blacksmith

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ashford
Sub-registration district: Ashford
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 782
Folio: 78
Page Number: 25
Household schedule number: 148
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter A Pilcher 47
Emily A Pilcher 49 born Brede Sussex
Ernest F Pilcher 21 occ boiler makers assistant
Edith E Pilcher 18 occ gen domestic servant
Florence Pilcher 14. Occ general domestic servant


Marriages Sep 1903
MARSHALL Emma Jane Blean 2a 1931
NEAME Sidney Charles Blean 2a 1931
Pilcher Florence Edith Blean 2a 1931 >>>>>>>
Puttock Herbert George G. Blean. 2a. 1931

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jun 2015 10:25

1911 census

Name: Emily Ann Pilcher
Age in 1911: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Brede, Sussex
Civil Parish: Ashford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 3 Tufton Road, Ashford, Kent
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 36
Estimated Marriage Year: 1875
Registration district: West Ashford
Registration District Number: 55
Sub-registration district: Ashford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 143
Piece: 4258
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Albert Pilcher 56 occ smith
Emily Ann Pilcher 58
Edith Emily Pilcher 27
Married 36 years 5 children born 4 stil living

kristel

kristel Report 15 Jun 2015 11:39

Florence was my dad's aunty and the name minter rings a bell with my mum as my father used to speak about a pop minter she says he used to stay with my father's parents thank u for helping this is all soo confusing