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abbott

abbott Report 12 Apr 2016 18:27

thank you will have a think about it dave

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 13 Apr 2016 01:22

Dave there wouldn't be any children from the 1988 marriage, as the bride would have been nearly 60 :-)

possibly they lived together before marriage, but her most recent previous marriage was in 1975 when she was nearly 45

her surname is very uncommon ... so in fact I did check for children from all the marriages, and only the first one resulted in children

this is all why I'm wondering why the people who say 'not your JMA' could not provide some more info about him, e.g. was he born in the UK or the US ...

but if I'm following, the granddaughter you're talking with must be a child of one of the children of the first marriage to Hepworth, and does not know a lot about him except the story of born in Scotland and lived in children's homes ... and that is a 100% match with your John, is it not?


ArgyllGran I'm going to pitch my privacy fit again ... the two people born in 1942 you posted above are not related to this situation so it isn't fair to publish their personal info here ... we can see the details at freebmd


AnninCardiff if you are reading ... on page one you posted several birth/marriage/death records that are not related to the John in this thread ... as Detective asked in another thread, could you delete those posts so the thread is shorter and easier to follow? thanks

abbott

abbott Report 13 Apr 2016 09:04

hi yes the granddaughter I am talking to is from johns marriage to jean Hepworth do you have any details of any children ivyline celia Thorpe had in her previous marraiges thanks dave

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Apr 2016 11:50

1942 births deleted from earlier post.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Apr 2016 12:27

John, I'm not sure if you're using freebmd.org.uk or not.
If not, you should - you can easily find birth records of children from Ivyline's first marriage, as her maiden surname was so unusual.

However, it's much harder (if not impossible) to find any later records for them, as Taylor isn't an unusual name.

For the son who was born in 1953, there's a possible marriage in Lower Agbrigg in 1973. I don't see any children from that marriage.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 13 Apr 2016 18:52

John, again, I wouldn't expect births from any later marriage ... Ivyline was born in 1929 and her second marriage was 1974 so she was 45, last birth for first marriage was 1966

as ArgyllGran says, the births can easily be found at freebmd, but finding the people is another matter

the two youngest children were born in Wakefield

there is a 1978 marriage in Wakefield that could be the 1960 child (unusual spelling of given name)

looking in Wakefield there are other possible matching marriages, for instance 1986 for the 1964 child (less common given name than some)

Dave, search here

http://www.searchelectoralroll.co.uk/

for the name of the 1960 child (he is last one in the list of results, shown in Wakefield)

192.com shows that address to be valid to 2016, and the children in the household match the children of the 1978 marriage (that we can't be certain is him but certainly seems to be)