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Macdonald Scott. Australia

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JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 21 Mar 2016 14:11

Ancestry shows the record of the 1971 burial of Ivy Elizabeth Scott in Auckland

NZ electoral rolls at Ancestry go to 1981

in 1957 and 1969, an Ivy Elizabeth Scott in Auckland was shown as a widow
... in 1963 she is shown as married but there is no other Scott at the Seddon Street address so that must be an error

there was a widowed IES shown in Bay of Plenty in 1954
but cemetery records show Archy Scott 1880-1950 whose wife was Ivy Elizabeth Scott (the 1905 marriage), and that IES is definitely the one shown on the electoral roll in 1954 at the same address as the one where she was shown earlier with husband Archy, and is probably the one shown on the later electoral rolls ... that IES was Ivy Elizabeth Millar born in late 1884 ... an IES died in 1976 at age 91 so that was probably the one who married Archy Scott in 1905

there is no other marriage of an Ivy Elizabeth to a Mr Scott in NZ to account for the 1971 death



>> the main thing is there is a 1971 death record in NZ for an Ivy Elizabeth Scott aged 59 who could be your Ivy and it could be worth getting the certificate to investigate

and that IES does not appear to be on any electoral roll in NZ, suggesting she was not a citizen

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Mar 2016 12:46

A tree on Ancestry (owned by Dianne Anderson - is that someone you know?) says Ivy died 1977-80 - but doesn't give any reason for saying that, and doesn't give any indication as to where she died.

If you have a subscription to Ancestry, you can contact Dianne, or if you don't, you can PM me your email address, and I'll be happy to ask her to contact you.

She doesn't list any children of Ivy and William.
She appears to be related to the McMaster side of the family, as she only gives name and dates for William, with no further details re parents, siblings or other relatives.

William

William Report 21 Mar 2016 02:38

Thanks again.
The Aunt mentioned was William's aunt, Annie Wright in Larbert Scotland.I received the letter in 1972 and it refers to a lettter that Annie had got "Many years before"
Although William did not keep in touch, it is reasonable to believe that Ivy would have kept on touch wth her family in Victoria. In addition to Alice , she had a brother William Harvey McMaster born Benalla 1907. Their father was William John (on one record as William James) and mother Ethel Lilian Osborne.
The 1939 Queensland electoral roll has the pair living in South Brisbane.
It is not possible to see records of Australian births until 100 years have passed!\

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 21 Mar 2016 00:48

Ivy was born in 1912

New Zealand death index

1971/47377
Scott Ivy Elizabeth
age 59Y >> matches dob 1912

(an Ivy Cantrill did marry a Scott in NZ but she was born in 1905 and had no middle initial)

a possible match for William born 1902

1973/28011
Scott William John AKA John William
age 70Y


Given the seemingly close match between your Ivy and the death record for an Ivy Elizabeth Scott in 1971 it could be worth obtaining that certificate to see whether it does match

search deaths here and the certificate can be ordered on line

https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 21 Mar 2016 00:04

oh dear ... for future ref, William, and this is something no one understands and the site owner refuses to fix ... 'marked as answered' means that you have received all the information you need and the thread is finished

to avoid people skipping over it because it looks like you don't need further help, you could edit your subject line to add something like 'help still needed'


William's aunt is the Alice McMaster (sister of Macdonald Scott's mother Ivy McMaster), mentioned in one of your other threads?

so Alice never heard from her sister Ivy after 'years before' 1972.


just for the record this is the marriage in NSW

5155/1934
SCOTT WILLIAM J W
MCMASTER IVY E
SYDNEY


what is the 1939 record you traced? or is that the date of the letter mentioning Macdonald?
they are only on the electoral roll to 1937 (in Queensland, before that in NSW)


Just for info and ruling out, a Jack Scott (Jack being sometimes a nickname), son of a William and Ivy couple, died in NSW in 1980 but he was likely born in 1913 to a different couple.

William

William Report 20 Mar 2016 23:25

Thanks for the responses. I have previously searched for the parents traced up to 1939. They were married in 1934. I have a letter from Wiliam's Aunr in 1972 which mentions that she had heard, years before, that William had a son Macdonald but she never heard from him again..

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JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 20 Mar 2016 19:16

maybe William would tell us what evidence of Macdonald Scott there is - last heard of in 1939 how?

and keep to a single thread for this family now ...

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Mar 2016 11:51

I see you've also been hunting for his parents who "disappear" about the same time:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1156877

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1285027


EDIT:

From the second link I see that Macdonald Scott must have been born between 1934 and 1939.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Mar 2016 09:20

Do you know when he was born, William?

I can't see any sign of him anywhere, past or present.
Is Macdonald his first name, or is it perhaps a middle name which he used instead?

Can see his parents in 1937 - not that that's any help:

William John Wright Scott
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: William John Wright Scott
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1937
Subdistrict: Toowoomba
State: Queensland
District: Darling Downs
Country: Australia

With Ivy Elizabeth, at 152 Campbell Street West.

William

William Report 20 Mar 2016 06:07

Searching for possible living 1st Cousin. Son of William John Wright Scott, born 1902 in Scotland and Ivy Elizabeth Macmaster born 1906 in Victoria. Last heard of in Brisbane 1939.