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Trying to find my Dad

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Kay????

Kay???? Report 22 Jun 2016 22:22

So not a much later issue with all the alterations,

I think all this must have come to light later when adoption forms were required to be filled in.

Just to be sure she didnt marry in Scotland in either surname,,,,,,if over 21 she could have married in Ireland or I-o-Man to which there isnt any on-line indexes to check.

Have you any paperwork for file of adoption.?or did you remain with Mum>?

Perhaps extened family may have knowledge of what actually occured.

Jayne

Jayne Report 22 Jun 2016 20:20

January 12th 1967. Birth date 30/11/66 xx

Kay????

Kay???? Report 22 Jun 2016 18:12

Jayne,

When was the certificate you have issued-dated.?

Jayne

Jayne Report 22 Jun 2016 12:45

Hi Ladies, thank you very much, no offence taken at all. Xx

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 22 Jun 2016 12:00

I was thinking exactly the same as Shirley. Your mother wouldn't have had to provide any evidence that she was married so the registrar would have taken anything she said at face value.

The records were probably amended before your presumed adoption as if there WAS a real father named on the birth certificate I assume he would have had to agree to the adoption so it would have been better to tell the truth and have the certificate amended.

Again. like Shirley, no wish to offend, just giving an opinion.

Kath. x

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Jun 2016 09:42

To me it's looks like Sandra made up names when she first registerd the birth maybe as a cover up,

Her mum seems to have taken things in hand and made the declaration with Sandra to correct the birth entry with the right info

It looks too way out to be a simple registration error on the part of the registrar

Mmn Willis has no cross ref to family it seems

She used her mmn as hers ie Cook then made up the fathers name and said she was nee Willis Especially as you say the corrections that were done done later deletied the name Willis and fathers name

I see on the revised entry there is a small s against the page nos .this usually indicates an adoption . Were you adopted ?? If so have you accessed your adoption file

Hope my thoughts on the situation surrounding the birth reg hasnt offended you

Really not my intention to do that <3

Kay????

Kay???? Report 22 Jun 2016 06:40

If it was found Sandra had lied on registration and it came to light if you were adopted as your birth certificate had to be surrended it may have caused problems in getting true facts,also as Mr Cooks name also appears his permission would have been sought,which may not have been possible.

It may even be a simple case that a mix-up of surnames on registration took place and a request to have it corrected needed the declaractions made to satisify the General Registrar the declared facts were true.
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Because a birth entry cant be taken out of the GRO index a new entry has to be made with correct details and a re-issue of birth cert has to be made with corrections that is one reason why yours shows this.

The only GRO entry that is seen to be taken out completely is an annulled marriage.


Jayne

Jayne Report 21 Jun 2016 22:38

Kay, Mr Cooks name is on my birth certificate, on the side if it there is omissions where sections were asked to be removed by a declaration signed by my Mother and Grandmother (who's maiden name was also cook) xx

Kay????

Kay???? Report 21 Jun 2016 21:53

Jayne how did you learn of Mr Cook's name?

Your mother could have taken the surname Cook without any marriage if she lived with Mr Cook...perhaps she registered you without his consent and he had a right not to be named on your BC if he disputed parentage.especially at that time as no DNA exsisted and a blood test wasnt taken as a fact especially if a common group.

Jayne

Jayne Report 21 Jun 2016 19:33

One has passed away, the other was only a child at the time :-( xx

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 21 Jun 2016 19:05

What about her siblings? Do they know anything?

Were you adopted by any chance and have an adoption file? I ask because your birth registration implies there was some name change at some point.

Rose

Jayne

Jayne Report 21 Jun 2016 18:07

Thanks Kay. My grandparents were married at a very young age and all their children are there's. It's just mine that are weird.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 21 Jun 2016 17:21

Have you checked the date of your grandparents marriage to see if any chance she was born before they ever married.? or your grandmother was married before ?hence the surname confusion,,,,,,,,used and known by the stepfathers surname but legally not changed,

Your fathers name wont be on the certificate unless he gave signed consent and was present on registration.

Jayne

Jayne Report 21 Jun 2016 13:23

Hi Rose, she did marry a Lowe. I suspect that Willis is not a real surname and that the mystery will deepen.

My name is registered as
Constance Jayne Ann registered January 67

Jayne

Jayne Report 21 Jun 2016 11:55

Hi Rose, she did marry a Lowe. I suspect that Willis is not a real surname and that the mystery will deepen.

My name is registered as
Constance Jayne Ann registered January 67

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 21 Jun 2016 10:52

Did your mother marry a Lowe? Not sure where the Willis comes in.

Rose

Rambling

Rambling Report 21 Jun 2016 10:50

Not at that address 1964. surnames Halsey and Wilson.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 21 Jun 2016 10:21

You mean she was Sandra Mary Chambers and her mother's maiden name was Cook, born in 1943?

I'm assuming Jayne isn't your birth name as there's a birth registered under Chambers and Cook which would imply they weren't married.

Have you looked at old electoral rolls for the address you have in Islington?

Rose

Jayne

Jayne Report 21 Jun 2016 10:00

Chambers comes from her dad, my grandfather.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Jun 2016 07:49

Where does chambers come in ??

Sorry I am confused :-)