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Jink20

Jink20 Report 6 Mar 2024 11:37

Scotlands People show 2 birth entries with James Robertson+ MMN Cummings YOB search 1928-1929

ROBERTSON
JAMES
M
1928
685 / 2 / 727
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)
NO IMAGE

ROBERTSON
JAMES
M
1928
685 / 3 / 1003
CANONGATE
NO IMAGE

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Mar 2024 12:53

Lisa -
how do you know that James's wife was Ida Mary?

None of the records posted so far have shown them to be together.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 13:01

Sibling for the one I posted some time ago

ROBERTSON
CATHERINE MCNOU
F
1927
685 / 2 / 209
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)

Also registered Canongate

ROBERTSON
CATHERINE MCNOU
F
1927
685 / 3 / 377
CANONGATE

Several other Robertson/Cummings births in the St Andrew district within a viable time-scale, including

ROBERTSON
HENDRY BLACK C
M
1932
685 / 2 / 582
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)

Sadly......................
ROBERTSON
HENRY BLACK C
0
CUMMINGS
M
1933
685 / 2 / 330
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)



AND...................among others

ROBERTSON
ANN LEADBETTER*****************************************
F
1935
685 / 2 / 370
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)


PLUS...............

ROBERTSON
HENRY BLACK C
M
1943
685 / 2 / 1149
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 13:15

Name Catherine Mcnaught Cummings
Sex Female
Father's Name Henry Black Cummings
Mother's Name Catherine Stobie
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 08 Mar 1904
Event Place Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom

Birth
CUMMINGS
CATHERINE M'NAU
STOBIE
F
1903
685 / 1 / 489
ST GEORGE

Parents' marriage
STOBIE
CATHERINE
CUMMINGS
HENRY
1903
685 / 1 / 85
ST GEORGE

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 14:01

CUMMINGS
ERNEST JOHN CLA
STOBIE
M
1917
685 / 2 / 206

ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)
CUMMINGS
JOHN
STOBIE
M
1909
685 / 2 / 705

ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)
CUMMINGS
WILLIAM STOBIE
STOBIE
M
1911
685 / 1 / 104

ST GEORGE
CUMMINGS
MARY STOBIE
STOBIE
F
1913
685 / 2 / 607
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)

CUMMINGS
ANN LEADBITTER************************
STOBIE
F
1908
685 / 2 / 74
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 14:17

Referring back to my posting of the 1959 ER, these are all the Robertsons listed for the district

NONE of them is at the same address as IDA MARY

Alan Crawford Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Andrew Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Christina Isabel Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Elaine Esther Robertson***************same address as James Crawford Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Eva Francis Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Ida Mary Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

James Crawford Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

John Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

John Murray Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Judith Diane Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Kenneth Thomas Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Margaret Jean Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Martha Huntington Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Monica Catherine May Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Patricia Frances Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Peter Reginald Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Winnie Agnes Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

The ONLY 'James' has a second forename, and is clearly not the man being sought

Name James C Robertson
Birth Date 10 Apr 1916
Death Date 9 Jan 2005
Cemetery Belgian Gardens Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Belgian Gardens, Townsville City, Queensland, Australia

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Mar 2024 13:10

James's mother's death

Deaths Sep 1983 (>99%)
ROBERTSON CATHERINE MCNAUGHT 23AP1903 GLOUCESTER 22 1803

She and other family members are in a tree on Ancestry........from which

Death of son stuart robert gordon robertson(1940–2004)
26/12/2004 • gloucester

GRO confirmation

ROBERTSON, STUART ROBERT GORDON 1940
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2004 in GLOUCESTER (4831A) Reg A73 Entry Number 35

Marriage from SP

ROBERTSON
STUART ROBERT G
ROLFE
JEAN
1960
685 / 3 / 392
CANONGATE AND PORTOBELLO
NO IMAGE

One son's birth on freebmd

That son's wife is the owner of the tree on Ancestry

Detail

Detail Report 8 Mar 2024 10:28

Thank you so much for all this lovely information,
I’ll work through and come back to you all and I appreciate the links to obtain records

I thank you

Detail

Detail Report 8 Mar 2024 10:35

Ida Mary ? Married James Robertson
I have this information from one of the family but we all seem to have a problem with locating them with dates ect !! as they travelled from Scotland to Australia.
Some of the family just are sure ? And some don’t know nothing at all.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Mar 2024 11:13

Death certs may provide answers

Detail

Detail Report 8 Mar 2024 16:34

Thank you ErikaH
Really do appreciate this and all of you thanks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Mar 2024 13:57

The son and daughter-in-law (hers is the tree on Ancestry) of Stuart Robert G Robertson are on the ER to 2005. The address is not recorded as having been sold since that date.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2024 11:36

Apply for copy death cert here...................

https://www.qld.gov.au/law/births-deaths-marriages-and-divorces

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Mar 2024 11:34

You wrote

" as they travelled from Scotland to Australia."

The - possible - record I posted on 6th March at 10.14 shows James travelling ALONE

There is certainly NO marriage on Scotland's People

It is probably also significant that NO mention of a wife is attached to his gravestone....ONLY his parents names are recorded - as you will have seen

If you want a definitive answer, I think that the death cert is your best bet

Detail

Detail Report 14 Mar 2024 09:50

Thank you i will go on and order the death certificate and see what this can tell us and find out. thanks ErikaH

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2024 10:37

PM from poster suggesting the following 1959 divorce record is the right man

Name James E Robertson
Gender Male
Marriage Date 9 Apr 1950
Divorce Date 17 Apr 1959
Divorce Place Multnomah, Oregon, USA
Spouse
Ida M Robertson
Docket Number 1835

I post without comment............................

Name James Elmer Robertson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Truck Driver
Sex Male
Age 50 years
Birth Year (Estimated) 1900
Spouse's Name Ida Mae Hopkins
Spouse's Sex Female
Spouse's Age 49 years
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1901
Event Type Application for Marriage Licence
Event Date 5 April 1950
Event Place Walla Walla, Walla Walla, Washington, United States

He was a divorced man, born in Wisconsin.
She was also divorced, born in Texas

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2024 10:50

?????

Name James E Robertson
Age 50
Birth Date abt 1900
Gender Male
Race White
Birth Place Wisconsin
Marital Status Married
Relation to Head of House Head
Residence Date 1950
Home in 1950 Umatilla, Oregon, USA
House Number B2
Apartment Number 80
Dwelling Number 485
Farm No
Acres No
Inferred Previous Residence Place Preeenet, Umatilla, Oregon
Occupation Heavy Truck Driver
Industry U S Army Engineers
Father Birth Place USA
Mother Birth Place USA
Occupation Category Working
Hours Worked 40
Worker Class Government
Same House Yes
School Completed S12
Grade Completed No
School Attendance 30 or over
Weeks Worked 50
Income 2773
Other Income None
Supplemental Income None
Relative Income None
Relative Other Income None
World War II Veteran Yes
World War I Veteran No
Veteran No
Institution Name Bachelors Gts, -, Anna
Institution Type Men's Barracks, -, James
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
James E Robertson 50 Head

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2024 11:01

Name Ida Hopkins
Respondent Yes
Age 39
Estimated Birth Year abt 1901
Gender Female
Race White
Birthplace Texas
Marital Status Married
Relation to Head of House Wife
Home in 1940 Ontario, Malheur, Oregon
Ontario, Malheur, Oregon
Street SW 8th Street
Inferred Residence in 1935 Ontario, Malheur, Oregon
Residence in 1935 Ontario
Resident on farm in 1935 No
Sheet Number 1A
Occupation Nurse
Industry Hospital
Attended School or College No
Highest Grade Completed Elementary school, 8th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census 40
Class of Worker Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939 10
Income 200
Income Other Sources No
Neighbors View others on page
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Charles Hopkins
45
Head
Ida Hopkins 39 Wife
Wynema Hopkins
20
Daughter
Charles Hopkins
15
Son
Ruby G Hopkins
11
Daughter



Name Ida Mae
Gender Female
Marriage Date 6 Nov 1916
Divorce Date 22 Sep 1949
Divorce Place Umatilla, Oregon, USA
Spouse Charles L Hopkins
Docket Number 4152
Grounds......................his desertion

Name Charles L M Hopkins
Gender Male
Age 24
Birth Date abt 1892
Marriage Date 6 Nov 1916
Marriage Place Jefferson, Oklahoma, USA
Spouse Ida May Gilley

Detail

Detail Report 19 Mar 2024 11:23

what a brilliant find ! thank you so much

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2024 11:25

Poster has now come up with this from a tree on Ancestry

Ina Mary Draney
1932–2006
BIRTH 18 SEP 1932 • Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
DEATH 22 DEC 2006 • Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

So..............INA....not IDA

This makes more sense......... the USA records were completely irrelevant