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re; my grandmothers death record

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Mary Report 9 Feb 2009 17:47

i accidently deleted previous message iam novice with computer. i asked if anyone could search records at GRO as i live in scotland.i have searched records online and only found several possible matches,but turned out mother and 83 year old uncle were brought up in care ,he only saw her once when taken to visit her in hospital in1935 in spalding where he was in care.on checking with lincoln depts drew a blank. my uncle is desperate to find out where she is buried,and when she died. her name was LOTTIE MAY HARVEY MN HOLLIDAY. SPOUSE FRANK HARVEY. SHE WAS BORN IN BELPER DERBY 1893.MARRIED IN GLASGOW THEN WENT BACK TO DERBY IN 1918.WE THINK HE EITHER DIED OR DESERTED HER AFTER 1926 WHEN MY UNCLE WAS BORN.I WOULD BE SO GRATEFUL FOR ANY HELP.


KathleenBell Report 9 Feb 2009 18:44

There is this death where the birth year is given as 1893:-

Name: Lottie May Harvey
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1893
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1984
Age at death (estimated): 91
Registration district: Norwich Outer
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 10
Page: 1953

Kath. x


Mary Report 9 Feb 2009 20:07



SylviaInCanada Report 9 Feb 2009 22:07


Just one point that you may not be aware of

The records on freebmd are given as QUARTERS of the year

plus the information on a death certificate may not be accurate about many things.

The only information on a death certificate that you can rely on are:-

date of death
place of death
cause of death
name of person reporting death
name of doctor

Everything else is based on hearsay ..... ie, what the dead person told the family or the nurses or whoever reported the death.

Thus, the name may be wrong; the date of birth may be wrong; age may be wrong; name of husband may be wrong, especially if the spouse was dead or the marriage had broken up long ago.

All of us have to search the records on line.

Now, there are two possibiliies:-

a) the record of your grandmother's death has not yet been transcribed from the records onto freebmd

b) the record is missing because the information was not sent from the local registry office down to London to GRO

Of course, your grandmother may have married again!



Jaxx Report 9 Feb 2009 22:54

Hi Mary,

forgive me if you already have this info - but thought I'd post it anyway....

Found her marriage in Glasgow on March 5th 1918 at 19, Howard Street, Glasgow. By declaration in the prescence of Robert Wilson, Hairdresser, and Elsie Mabel Poole, Music Hall Artiste.

Grooms Details:

Frank Harvey, Amusement Caterer (Bachelor) aged 46.
Residence: 45 Buccleuch Street Glasgow.

Parents: George Harvey, Fruit Salesman (deceased) and Margaret Ann Harvey - Maiden name - Transfield (deceased)

Brides Details:

Lottie M Holliday, Amusement Caterer (Spinster) aged 25
Residence: 45 Buccleuch Street, Glasgow.

Parents: James Holliday, Railway Signalman (deceased) and Charlotte Holliday - Maiden surname: Swann

A likely marriage for Lotties Parents (if in England) is: Sep qrtr of 1882 in Burton (on Trent) ref 6b/461

I find them on the 1901 Census (and ten years on in 1911 but minus John) in the village of Ambergate in Heage, Derby. Lottie is with her parents and three siblings John F (14) Gertude Annie (6) and Ida Lillian (2)

there is a death for a "Charlotte M HARVEY" (Maybe she was named Charlotte but went by Lottie?) as follows:

Charlotte M Harvey
Oct, Nov Dec 1957
aged 64
Estimated birth 1893
District of Thanet
Ref: 5b/988

If her husband had left/died around 1926 - she would only have been 33. Is it possible she married again?

If so - there is a marriage for a Charlotte Harvey in the district of Basford in March quarter of 1928 to a "WALDOCK"

Hope this has been of some help :)


Jaxx Report 9 Feb 2009 23:14

According to the 1891 Census - Lottie had two older siblings also:

Sarah E (born abt 1883) and Alice N (born abt 1885)


(still no luck with Lottie's death yet, I'm afraid)


Mary Report 10 Feb 2009 11:33

thankyou jemima for your trouble . i already found these records and is only info i have on frank.


Mary Report 10 Feb 2009 11:37

thankyou sylvia if lottie married again would her maiden name holliday or first married name feature on online recods


Mary Report 10 Feb 2009 11:52

tha nks again jemima iwill check out the 1957 entry and marraige of lotties parents which is a good possibility as james was born in staffs. also i found james in 1911 census alive and still in belper age52. he died between then and 1918 when lottie married.


Mary Report 10 Feb 2009 12:00

hi again jemima ididint know about 2 older sisters . ionly checked hollidays on 1901 and 1911 census.i also found out my mother and uncle and his older sister who is 90 had brother who was born and died within 6 weeks in dec 1919.


Mary Report 10 Feb 2009 12:03

thanks kath i found that entry and enquired and wasent her.x