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USA birth / marriage look up if possible please.

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~Looby Loo~

~Looby Loo~ Report 26 Sep 2013 14:54

I've just found my ancestor on the LDS site, but can't find his birth. Was wondering if anyone has access to Ancestry World would do a look up for me please.

Russell Trent born 1917 Pennsylvania. Parents John Trent and Elizabeth Baker.

I have him in 1930 living with his aunt and uncle in Penn. And 1940 with his wife Henrietta. I've also found his marriage in 1937, which matches his mother's maiden name of Baker. But I cannot find his birth;

I have searched the same site for the marriage of his parents but I can't find that either.

She was born in Pennsylvania in 1886. She could also go under the name of Bessie / Betsey / Elizabeth.

Really appreciate any help anyone can give me.

Thanks in advance

Lou

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 15:20

There aren't that many births/marriages on Ancestry for the US. The records are held by State and only some are indexed on line.

A tree on Ancestry has his birth as

Russell Trent
Birth 02/16/1917 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, USA
Death july 7,2008 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, USA

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current about Russel J. Trent
Name: Russel J. Trent
Last Residence: 15236 Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Born: 16 Feb 1917
Died: 7 Jul 2008
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)

Web: Pennsylvania, Find A Grave Index, 1682-2012 about Russell J. Trent
Burial:
Russell J Trent
died 7 Jul 2008
Jefferson Memorial Park
Pleasant Hills
Allegheny County
Pennsylvania, USA
Plot: Section G08 WELL Lot 208D

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 15:22

Henrietta Trent

Birth: unknown
Death: Jan. 15, 1999


Burial:
Jefferson Memorial Park
Pleasant Hills
Allegheny County
Pennsylvania, USA
Plot: Section G08 WELL Lot 208D

Same as Russell

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 15:29

This is confusing. Could Henrietta have been known as Betsy or has the submitter got muddled?

Russell Trent
Baldwin resident

Russell Trent, 91, of Baldwin, died Monday, July 7, 2008.

He was the husband of the late Betsy; father of Judith (Donald) Group, Robert (Linda) Trent and the late Russell Trent Jr.; brother of the late Hazel Seabol; grandfather of Donald (Lori) Group and Lesley (Graham) Hackett; friend of Mary Moisey; also survived by numerous nieces and nephews.

Arrangements handled by Jefferson Memorial Funeral Home.

In lieu of flowers, contributions can be made to the North Zion Lutheran Church, 5100 Brownsville Road, Pittsburgh, PA 15236.

~Looby Loo~

~Looby Loo~ Report 26 Sep 2013 15:30

+++DetEcTive+++

That's him, that's brilliant, thanks so much as I didn't find anything about his burial although I did find a mention of a death which did match.

His wife's info is also brilliant.

Thanks so much, at least it's a little more to go on.

Good hunting to you in your own research.

Much appreciated,

Regards Lou

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 26 Sep 2013 15:30

I think this is him in 1920:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MX98-Y8P

Maureen

~Looby Loo~

~Looby Loo~ Report 26 Sep 2013 15:33

Hi again,

Haven't read all your info but Betsey was his mother's name or Elizabeth.

Lou

update;

OOh that is confusing, but I suppose it's just possible. Before his mother's family emigrated his aunt was baptised Mary but on the immigration records and passenger records she's known as Polly!! His mother was baptised as Bessie but was known as Elizabeth or Betsy. So with this lot anything is possible.

Lou

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 15:34

Russells Findagrave entry
http://goo.gl/lDBp10

Henrietta's
http://goo.gl/1Z9nE0

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 15:35

"but Betsey was his mother's name or Elizabeth"

That's what's confusing! . :-D

~Looby Loo~

~Looby Loo~ Report 26 Sep 2013 15:43

Hi Maureen,

I suppose that could be them in 1920 no wonder I couldn't find them, but where is John Trent's wife?? I know she was dead by 1937 - I wonder if she died when Russell was a baby?

I don't know about you both but my head is spinning now. this family have always been confusing. You should hear about their gt grandfather's children that will make you really spin.

Thanks Lou

:-)

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 15:47

LOL - back tracking on John Trent. Is this relevant?

U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about John Louis Trent
Name: John Louis Trent
City: Pittsburgh
County: Allegheny
State: Pennsylvania
Birth Date: 4 Feb 1882
Race: White

NOK wife – Mrs Bessie Trent
2835 Mary St Pittsburgh


~Looby Loo~

~Looby Loo~ Report 26 Sep 2013 15:51

Hi +++DetEcTive+++

Thanks again for the Grave info, very useful tip that I've saved for future use.

Thanks again to you both for your help, it's very much appreciated

Good Luck to you both

Regards Lou :-D <3

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 15:55

No problem - just sorry we can't find John and (Elizabeth's) marriage

~Looby Loo~

~Looby Loo~ Report 26 Sep 2013 16:04

Hi +++DetEcTive+++

I suppose that could be his father. so might be relevant. I will take it anyway as you never know it might prove useful in the future.

Thanks again,

Lou

mgnv

mgnv Report 27 Sep 2013 00:07

1900 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MS1T-FJX [with image link]
1900 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MS1T-2JB [with image link]

1910 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MGCY-YX3
Affiliate Publication Number: M1283
GS Film number: 1375317
Digital Folder Number: 004449956
Image Number: 00907

1920 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MX98-Y8P
GS Film number: 1821524
Digital Folder Number: 004385107
Image Number: 00202

1930 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XCCN-3WD
Affiliate Film Number: 1979
GS Film number: 2341713
Digital Folder Number: 004661274
Image Number: 00825

1940 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KQW6-LT6 [with image link]
[addy=2467 Cobden St]


For best reolution of 1910-1930 images, magnify 4 clicks, then save image:
http://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po1304unit#page/n904/mode/1up
http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1524unit#page/n200/mode/1up
http://archive.org/stream/fifteenthcensus00reel1979#page/n820/mode/1up


Not that I know 1900's your Bessie, but...
Although not all births were rego'ed pre-1875, an Aug 1850 birth (as per 1900) would most likely be rego'ed in 1850q3, and this is the only one that fits:

Births Sep 1850 (>99%)
Baker Cornelius Dudley 18 351

West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
BAKER Cornelius Tipton Sandwell Register Office TIP/29/457