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Thomas welsh

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Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 29 Dec 2013 21:37

Hello
I recently found the following in the Glasgow Herald newspaper dated 18/5/1898 but for the life of me can find no more=so any help would be much appreciated
this is my husbands grandma
ALLEDGED CHILD STEALING
Thomas Welsh a Glasgow man living at 9 Stirling St ,Glasgow aged 32,was remitted to the Sheriff from the central police court,charged with having stolen Bridget King,5 years of age,daughter of Hugh King of 251 High St Glasgow whilst out for a walk in the custody of a woman neighbour last Wednesday,heis description was circulated,last Sunday,and he was traced to Paisley,where he had lodged and thence to Johnstone where he was arrested with the child on Monday
Unfortunately Gladstone died 2 days later and the papers were full of this report and I cannot find anything of what happened to Thomas i.e any conviction :-S :-S :-S

Margee

Margee Report 29 Dec 2013 22:17

Who is Gladstone?

patchem

patchem Report 29 Dec 2013 22:31

Prime Minister of GB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Ewart_Gladstone

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 29 Dec 2013 23:14

Gladstone was primeminister :-)

Margee

Margee Report 30 Dec 2013 00:20

Oh duh!!! I knew that! Senior moment.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 30 Dec 2013 06:37

Hehe Margee :-D :-D
I been having one of those all throughout the festivities

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Dec 2013 13:01

?
1901 Scotland Census about Thomas Welsh
Name: Thomas Welsh
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Bridget Welsh
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 644/10
Registration District: Anderston
Civil Parish: Glasgow St Mark
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 5 Oak St
Occupation: Brass Founders Storeman
ED: 16
Household Schedule Number: 172
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1901_304
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Welsh 38
Bridget Welsh 38
Joseph Welsh 2
Maria Mccartney 16 step daughter
Annie Mccartney 14 step daughter
Maria Caulfield 69 mother in law

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 30 Dec 2013 13:14

Thanks Shirley
Unfortunately this Thomas is not the one
From what little has been made available to us from the archives
Thomas was born Glasgow 1866

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Dec 2013 15:30

Do you know what his occupation was ?
He may have lived in Glasgow but not born there

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1901 Scotland Census about Thomas Welsh
Name: Thomas Welsh
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship: Prisoner
Gender: Male
Where born: Falkirk, stirlingshire
Registration number: 685/3
Registration District: Canongate
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Greenside
County: Midlothian
Address: Edinburgh
Occupation: Iron Moulder
ED: H M Prison
Household Schedule Number: 1
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1901_381

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 30 Dec 2013 16:15

Shirley
This one looks like him.and who knows the crime was in 1898 so with this being 1901 he could be in prisoner for that crime
ok I know it`s a lot of could be`s put it gives me something else to work on

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 30 Dec 2013 16:26

Any ideas
how to find info on length of sentence and crime
Have been told that if he wa sconvicted he would have recieved a lengthy sentence
Thank You

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 30 Dec 2013 16:45

nope that is not him neither
definately born Glasgow according to national archives of Scotland

Fairlyfatfairy

Fairlyfatfairy Report 7 Mar 2014 20:42

I would keep an open mind about'where' in Scotland he says he was born - my criminals vary from census to census to record to record - even swar surnames at various times when it suits them!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Mar 2014 22:34

A couple of old threads mentioning this case - but not answering the question of what happened to Thomas:

http://www.talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=17566

http://www.talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17585

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Mar 2014 22:39

Linked thread about Bridget's family:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1338208