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Mike * Report 30 Jan 2013 21:29

David you mght like to send your message to the poster direct by clicking on their name.
Unlikely that this post will be seen otherwise ( note the date)

David

David Report 30 Jan 2013 21:19

Hi all, I am also related to Richard Rowe born Rattlesden in 1792. He was my 3x Great grandfather, he Married Mary Stiff in 1822 the next year he came out of the army.. I found out his army records after a bit of reseach and dead ends..It very interesting he spent 13 years and 210 days in the Queen's royals 2nd foot regiment. He joined in Ipswich in 1809 aged 17 but said he was 14, I think it was because he was short.. He went on to fight with the Duke of Wellington in the Peninsular war in Spain, at the battle of Vittoria in 1813 and the pyrenees in 1814. The regiment was then sent to the west indies for over 5 years and he spent the last year and a half in Dublin before being discharded for being undersized..He was only 5foot 3 and a half inches tall, grey eyes and brown hair. his conduct was very irregular as his officer said..Mist have fell asleep on guard duty a lot.. His daughter Harriet married my ancestor John Sparke and they ended up with 15 children together, one of which was my gt. grandad Arthur Sparke.. :-D

Jane

Jane Report 26 Feb 2010 15:28

hi, everyone,
I just googled the roe family from rattlesden and found a site with some of the family members on it..thank you to everyone who helped!!
Richard was giving me a headache ha ha

thanks again Jane
ps I'LL BE BACK x

Mary

Mary Report 25 Feb 2010 19:00

1851 address Poy Street green district 9b image 13 Rattlesden.

It took a while to figure it out but if you google Poy Street Green it comes up,it did exist.

Maryb

Just googled Roe Family from Rattlesden 2nd result down had your family and looks very well researched.
It has all census addresses including 1851 Poy Street Green.
Also Richard 1792's mum and wife Mary Ann and her parents.

Choccy

Choccy Report 25 Feb 2010 18:55



here's the Ancestry version of 1861 census -


1861 England Census
Name: Richard Roe
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1793
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Rattlesden, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Rattlesden
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Stow
Sub-registration district: Rattlesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Roe 68
Mary Ann Roe 59
George Roe 21
Job Roe 19
Harriett Roe 14
Catherine Jane Roe 2




Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1145; Folio: 111; Page: 8; GSU roll: 542763.



Mary

Mary Report 25 Feb 2010 18:34

There definately in rattlesden in 1861 but Ancestry is playing up,and I'm getting bored.

Hope they sort it soon.

1861 District 10 image 8 Low St Rattlesden

Richard 68
Mary ann 59
George 21
Job 19
Harriet 14
Catherine Jane Roe grandaughter 2

Maryb

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 Feb 2010 18:15

These look like the children of your Richard & Mary Ann on BVRI but no Job.

ROE, Richard Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 20 Apr 1828 Recorded in: Rattlesden, Suffolk, England
Collection: BTs
Father: Richard Roe
Mother: Mary Ann
Source: FHL Film 989583 Dates: 1828 - 1831

ROWE, Catharine Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 5 Sep 1830 Recorded in: Rattlesden, Suffolk, England
Collection: BTs
Father: Richard ROWE
Mother: Mary Ann
Source: FHL Film 989587 Dates: 1830 - 1830

ROWE, James Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 3 May 1835 Recorded in: Suffolk, England
Collection: BTs
Father: Richard ROWE
Mother: Mary Anne
Source: FHL Film 989597 Dates: 1834 - 1836 Note: RATTLESDEN SUFF

ROWE, George Christening
Gender: Male
Birthplace: Rattlesden, Suff, Eng
Christening Date: 8 Dec 1839 Recorded in: Suffolk, England
Collection: BTs
Father: Richard ROWE
Mother: Mary Ann
Source: FHL Film 950441 Dates: 1839 - 1846



Madmeg

Madmeg Report 25 Feb 2010 18:14

Jane, I really didn't do anything other than post the 1851 census.

As I said, you can confirm the mother's maiden name by purchasing one of the children's birth certificates. There's a possible marriage on Family Search to Mary Anne Stiff - may or may not be right. Also a possible birth of Richard.

A word of warning about other people's trees. Not everyone conducts their research as thoroughly as you might think, so do check everything out. I'm still confused about Catherine who is 10 in 1841, then you said she was born 1847, and then 1859 (when the mother would have been going on for 60 - most improbable).

I can't find any of this family in 1861.

Good luck

Margaret

Jane

Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 17:59

cheers everyone, and thanks again
jane x

Dea

Dea Report 25 Feb 2010 17:46

Come back to this thread for more help when you are ready!!

Dea Xxx

Jane

Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 17:35

im thinking that maybe Richard was born in rattlesden suffolk,
I will have to do some more searching.

thank you all for your help, time and kindness
jane

Dea

Dea Report 25 Feb 2010 17:19

This is the family on 1841:

ROW, Richd M 45 1796 Suffolk ... Ag Lab. Army Pensioner
ROW, Mary Ann F 35 1806 Suffolk
ROW, Jonathan M 15 1826 Suffolk
ROW, Richard M 10 1831 Suffolk
ROW, James M 5 1836 Suffolk
ROW, George M 1 1840 Suffolk
ROW, Catherine F 10 1831 Suffolk



Clopton Green, Rattlesden

Dea x

Jane

Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 17:15

they also had a son Leonard b.1880 also in rattlesden.
x

Jane

Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 17:14

hi,
yes dea that is the family
jane

Dea

Dea Report 25 Feb 2010 17:12

1871:
ROWE, Job Head M 27 1844 Suffolk
ROWE, Fanny Wife F 23 1848 Suffolk
ROWE, Annie J Daughter F 5 1866 Suffolk
ROWE, Ada H Daughter F 2 1869 Suffolk

Rattlesden

Dea x

Jane

Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 17:04

thanks !!
My gt gt gt grandad was richard Roe b. 1793? He married Mary? b.1801?
they had 4? children George b.1840, Job b.1844, harriet b. 1847, Catherine b.1859.
this information has been gathered off other members trees but i have checked my gt gt frandfathers info and it is correct. Job married Frances Pead in 1865. And i know Job was born in rattlesden suffolk.
I am trying to find information on Richard and I think that the information Madmeg has sent could be a very strong possibility.
thanks again, i get very excited when i think i have found another of my ancestors!!
jane.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 25 Feb 2010 17:03

Hi Jane

We can all get a bit muddled at times. I'm in agreement with Dea - post the information you are certain about, cos I'm concerned you might be chasing the wrong family.

Jill

Jill Report 25 Feb 2010 16:59

jane
dont give up yet burnley and wigan are not that far apart
regards jill

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 25 Feb 2010 16:59

Jane, have you found them in 1841 or later censuses? Where did you find the daughter Christine?

The birth cert of any of the children registered after 1 July 1837 will give the mother's maiden name.

Dea

Dea Report 25 Feb 2010 16:56

Hi Jane,

It is nice to have someone actually apologise for 'wasting our time', even though we haven't spent much time on it yet !!

Why don't you give us the 'facts' that you have and an idea of where you were trying to go and we can see what we can come up with?

Dea x