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hi everyone
anybody had any luck finding details of susan spooner as to what happened to her.

regards

Which marriage cert please?
The one to Mr Jenkins or to the Mr Morgan that Mike found in Swansea?

If its the one in Swansea in 1916 to Mr Morgan please can you give all details on it,especially the name of the brides father and his occupation.

Thanks

HI EVERYBODY
have know received marriage cert let me know what info
you may require from it.

P.S I would like to thank everyone for thier input it is most
appreciated.

regards to all peter

This is the only death for a Susan showing for that date:
Susan Elizabeth Scarbrow
Birth Date: 1 Oct 1892
Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 1985
Age at death (estimated): 92
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: London
Volume: 12
Page: 110
So, not likely with the extra name.
Deaths before 1969 do not show date of birth.
So, either the person informing for the death certificate did not know her correct date of birth, or she died before 1969.
This is most unsatisfactory.

RE SUSAN SPOONER

d o b 1 oct 1892

place bethnal green london

father george spooner leather case maker

mothe susan pollock

regards p.j

Peter,
Just start with exact date of birth from certificate to try and identify any death.

(Then name and occupation of Father, and Mother's maiden name if you want)

re susan spooner
have received birth cert for susan spooner; could anybody who's interested let me know what you require. Or give me some instruction on how to put a copy on the computer for all to see.

many thanks for your patience

P.J

Good ho,its the only way of having any chance of trying to find out anything.
We will be here waiting.

Dont know about the others, but I really should get out sometimes !

i have applied for both birth & marriage certificates. will post info as soon as i receive.

Interesting Michael.

A bit close to her leaving Mr Jenkins time,but possible.

Would be interesting to know the details of the marriage cert to see if any are the same as the one to Mr John Jenkins.

Some money on certs is going to have to be spent on this at some point if Susan is really wanted to be found out about.

Total stab in the dark ...


Marriages Mar 1916
Jenkins Susan - Morgan Swansea 11a 1601
Morgan Thomas - Jenkins Swansea 11a 1601



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Births Jun 1916

Morgan Mary H - Spooner Swansea 11a 2214

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Births Sep 1922

Morgan William - Spooner Swansea 11a 2005

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Births Sep 1924

Morgan Grace -Spooner Swansea 11a 2043

It would really be best to get her birth cert for exact date of birth.

£9.25 from here

http://www.gro.gov.uk

Patricia has posted all the details for you to be able to order it.
If you have not ordered before and have any probs just ask any of us for help..its free of charge on here !

We may then have a chance of finding some possible deaths for her.

Where was John Daniel living when he had her (supposedly)declared dead?
If he did indeed do that he can not have divorced her.

Do they issue a death cert in those cases?
I have it in the back of my mind that they do.
Will have to check it out.

Mother born 1913,her mother left when she was aged 3 in 1916ish,so maybe declared dead in about 1924 ish?

Sound about right?

born 1892 possibly child bearing age up 1937

wonder
Name: Peter R Allcock
Mother's Maiden Surname: Spooner
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1928
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 820

Cant see a marriage Allcock/Spooner

just an observation. Susan may not have known she was delared dead so never remarried but lived with someone and would be buried under their name.

sorry for my errors im new to this so trying to find info is difficult but im
learning all the time by helpful people like yourself.

as for a birth date no i do not have one my mother is 97 and in a home
and can not remember anything. all she say's that she does not know
why she left when she was 3 yrs old. A ll the rest of the family are dead so thiers no one else to ask
she did say that 7 years after she left john daniel her father had his wife
susan declared dead
but we dont know this for certain as my mother is very confused.

Message from Peter.

HI
THANKS FOR DETAILS OF ABOVE VERY HELPFUL WHAT I AM TRYING TO FIND IS DID SHE REMARRY. DID SHE HAVE ANY MORE CHILDREN OTHER THAN MY MOTHER SUSAN BORN 13 FEB 1913 (STILL ALIVE) AND MY UNCLE JOHN JENKINS BORN 26 JULY 1914
.WHEN & WHERE SHE DIED.AND IS THIER ANY MORE CHILDREN ALIVE I MAY BE ABLE TO CONTACT AND ASK IF THEY KNOW WHY SHE JUST WENT AWAY? MY GRANDFATHER JOHN DANIEL WOULD NEVER SPEAK OF HER.

THANKS AGAIN FOR ANY INFO YOU CAN FIND
REGARDS

Peter ,I have put this on here so that everyone can see what it is that you want help with.

To reply on here as we do please use the purple rply button at the top of the post.

Also it would be nice if you could turn your caps off,it makes hard on the eyes for reading and also looks as though you are shouting.

As patricia asked....Do you have her exact date of birth please?This makes it possible to search the death records easier and if she remained a Jenkins then it may well be a long and expensive haul to find her death.
Are you certain that she divorced?Divorce back then was a difficult and costly thing and mainly the upper classes were the only ones to be able to afford it,so people just seperated and ended up living with another partner without actually marrying,unless they commited bigamy of course.
Thank you
Fan

Yep,looks like Julia is stepmother to Susan Spooner born 1892

Name: George Spooner
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Spouse Name: Julia James
Spouse Age: 45
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Oct 1900
Parish: St Andrew, Hoxton
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Robert Spooner
Spouse Father Name: William Willmott.

Bride and groom are Widow and Widower.

Witnesses
Henry Willmott and Emily James.

Death of George Spooners first Wife and mother of young Susan Spooner

Deaths Sep 1896
Spooner Susan 28 Shoreditch 1c 97


Marriages Dec 1890
Pollock Susan W. Ham 4a 293
Spooner George West Ham 4a 293


OK ,got that out of the way,so now to see what we can find after 1920 ish.

Think Julia may not be mother of Susan



1901
SPOONER, George Head Married M 46 1855 Fancy Leather Worker
City
London
SPOONER, Julia Wife Married F 46 1855
London
SPOONER, Susan Daughter Single F 9 1892
Grays
Essex

Registration District:
Shoreditch Sub District:
Hoxton New Town Enumeration District:
14 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St John the Baptist

Civil Parish:
Shoreditch Municipal Borough:
Address:
74, Bevenden Street, Shoreditch County:
London



1891
SPOONER, George Head Married M 35 1856 Fancy Leather Worker In Pocket Books
London
SPOONER, Susan Wife Married F 23 1868
Edmonton
Middlesex
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
1354 Folio:
40 Page:
8

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Walthamstow Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Saviour

Civil Parish:
Walthamstow Municipal Borough:
Address:
18, Markhouse Road, Walthamstow County:
Essex

1911
Very precise place of birth on here,although 1901 does say Grays Essex for birth place .But the birth in Bethnal Green would be her I think.

BACON, Earnest William Head Married M 28 1883 Painter On Buildings 51 Vyner St Hackney London
BACON, Annie Bertha Wife Married F 24 1887 Tailoress 6 Swan Court Mile End London
SPOONER, Susan Boarder Single F 18 1893 Fancy Leather Work Park Row Bethnal Green London
BACON, Alice Maud Daughter Single F 2 1909 51 Vyner St Cambridge Heath London

Registration District:
Bethnal Green Sub District:
Bethnal Green North East Enumeration District:
32 Parish:
Bethnal Green

Address:
61 Vyner St Bethnal Green County:
London