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Sheena Peckham looking for Thomas Sullivan (b1850)

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WDYTYALive

WDYTYALive Advisor Report 21 Feb 2014 11:40

Looking for Thomas Sullivan (born around 1850/1851) in Guernsey, Channel Islands.
I've tried Guernsey and Jersey records, but found nothing.
I do know he married on 23rd August 1880 in Glasgow. His occupation was a seaman in the Merchant Service. His parents were Thomas James Sullivan, a master blacksmith, and Marie Le Count (on his marriage certificate) or Maria De L'Coutts (on his death certificate).

Can anybody help finding his birth record and anything to do with his parents? Thank you!

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Feb 2014 11:50

Channel islands BMD's are not on line

Not certain when registration came into force in the CI's

There are no census records matching the info provided for either Thomas

WHO did Thomas jnr marry?

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Feb 2014 11:57

For info..........look at............

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/channel-islands-and-man.htm

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Feb 2014 12:10

This 1861 census may just be a coincidence but will post for elimination:

SULLIVAN, Thomas Head Married M 40 1821 Labourer Ireland
SULLIVAN, Ellen Wife Married F 35 1826 Schoolmistress Ireland
SULLIVAN, James Son Unmarried M 12 1849 Scholar Ireland
SULLIVAN, Thomas Son Unmarried M 11 1850 Scholar Jersey

Piece: 4374 Folio: 21 Page: 8
Registration District: Alderney (8)
Civil Parish: St Anns

Address: Le Bers Row, St Anns, Newtown County: Guernsey and Adjacent Islands

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Feb 2014 12:13

There is also this family in 1851:

SULLIVAN, Thomas Head Married M 35 1816 Labourer Ireland
SULLIVAN, Bridgete Wife Married F 30 1821 Ireland
SULLIVAN, James Son Unmarried M 7 1844 Ireland
SULLIVAN, Mary A Daughter Unmarried F 4 1847 St Heliers, Jersey
SULLIVAN, Thomas Son Unmarried M 2 1849 St Martins, Jersey
COUDON, Patrick Lodger Unmarried M 27 1824 Labourer Ireland

Piece: 2528 Folio: 366 Page: 17
Civil Parish: St Martins
Address: La Chapel, St Martins, District 5th County: Jersey

Less likely if Sheena is sure it is Guernsey.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Feb 2014 12:16

Not seeing a seaman's card or crew list for anyone of that name with those birth details.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Feb 2014 12:18

Team - when you are getting marriage details from clients will you also please get the wife's name?

This is vital when trying to trace the person. Thank you.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Feb 2014 12:29

Is this his wife in 1881?

SULLIVAN, Isabella Wife Married F 19 1862 Seamans Wife Peterhead, Aberdeenshire

Piece: 6461 Folio: 4 Page: 38
Registration District: Govan Church
Civil Parish: Govan

Address: 130, Plantation Street, Govan County: Lanarkshire
.................................................................................................................

ADDED: The 1891 confirms it

SULLIVAN, Thomas Head Married M 40 1851 Ship Rigger Guernsey Isld
SULLIVAN, Isabella Wife Married F 29 1862 Peterhd, Aberdenshire
SULLIVAN, Annabella Daughter F 9 1882 Greenock, Renfrewshire
SULLIVAN, Thomas J Son M 8 1883 Glasw, Lanarkshire
SULLIVAN, John A Son M 5 1886 Glasw, Lanarkshire
SULLIVAN, Jane G Daughter F 3 1888 Glasw, Lanarkshire
SULLIVAN, Robert A Son M 1 1890 Glasw, Lanarkshire

Piece: 646 Folio: 12 Page: 7
Registration District: Plantation
Civil Parish: Govan

Address: Blackburn Street, Govan County: Lanarkshire

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 21 Feb 2014 14:22

From a tree on Ancestry
Death
1913
30 Jun
Age: 62
Plantation, Govan, Glasgow, Lanarkshire Scotland

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 21 Feb 2014 15:00

Guernsey records, which can go as far back as the 1500's are NOT available on line.

I presume the questioner has contacted www.priaulxlibrary.co.uk.in St Peter Port. If they cannot trace Thomas birth then I suggest looking at the marriage and birth place of Thomas mother Marie.

Edit: This same question has been asked in several places over the last few years obviously with no success. If the Priaulx Library is not able to help then try
La Société Guernesiaise at http://www.societe.org.gg/sections/familyhistory.php.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 21 Feb 2014 19:32

Just a general observation...would it not be better WDYTYA Team to have deleted all 2013 requests?




Jude

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 21 Feb 2014 20:12

A lot more children by 1901!

Name: Thomas Sullivan
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Bella Sullivan
Gender: Male
Where born: guemsay, England
Registration Number: 646A/2
Registration district: Plantation Landward
Civil Parish: Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 29, Blackburn St
Occupation: Shipyard Rigger
ED: 13
Household schedule number: 33
LINE: 11
Roll: CSSCT1901_324
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Sullivan 50
Bella Sullivan 39
John Sullivan 15
Jennie Sullivan 13
Agnes Sullivan 8
Maggie Sullivan 6
Willie Sullivan 4
George Sullivan 1

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Feb 2014 09:47

What is the point of the GR 'team' posting requests if they don't monitor them?

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Feb 2014 09:59

Suggestion ONLY for the mother.....................

1841 census

Person: LE CONTE, Mary Address: Bordeaux, The Vale

RENOUF, Martin M 35 1806 Isle of Guernsey VIEW
RENOUF, Margueritte F 35 1806 Isle of Guernsey VIEW
RENOUF, Martin M 8 1833 Isle of Guernsey VIEW
RENOUF, Margueritte F 6 1835 Isle of Guernsey VIEW
RENOUF, Stephen M 3 1838 Isle of Guernsey VIEW
RENOUF, Martha F 1 1840 Isle of Guernsey VIEW
HEAUME, Selina F 4 1837 Isle of Guernsey VIEW
LE CONTE, Mary F 15 1826 Isle of Guernsey Female Servant

WDYTYALive

WDYTYALive Advisor Report 22 Feb 2014 12:37

Many thanks to everyone who has posted a reply. I have been trying to find my great grandfather's birth details and details of his parents for a very long time!
In the past I have paid for Guernsey Ancestry to search their records for me and also the Archives of Jersey Heritage, but sadly neither of them could find any trace of the family.
I posted this message this year at WDYTYA in the hope that somebody somewhere might have a new angle on the family, or had come across a new line of research for the Channel Islands.
I thank you all again for taking the time to reply.
To Reggie: Please can you tell me how I can access this 1841 census you found?This is so that I can have a look for myself.
Kind regards Sheena

WDYTYALive

WDYTYALive Advisor Report 22 Feb 2014 12:37

Many thanks to everyone who has posted a reply. I have been trying to find my great grandfather's birth details and details of his parents for a very long time!
In the past I have paid for Guernsey Ancestry to search their records for me and also the Archives of Jersey Heritage, but sadly neither of them could find any trace of the family.
I posted this message this year at WDYTYA in the hope that somebody somewhere might have a new angle on the family, or had come across a new line of research for the Channel Islands.
I thank you all again for taking the time to reply.
To Reggie: Please can you tell me how I can access this 1841 census you found?This is so that I can have a look for myself.
Kind regards Sheena

WDYTYALive

WDYTYALive Advisor Report 22 Feb 2014 12:37

Many thanks to everyone who has posted a reply. I have been trying to find my great grandfather's birth details and details of his parents for a very long time!
In the past I have paid for Guernsey Ancestry to search their records for me and also the Archives of Jersey Heritage, but sadly neither of them could find any trace of the family.
I posted this message this year at WDYTYA in the hope that somebody somewhere might have a new angle on the family, or had come across a new line of research for the Channel Islands.
I thank you all again for taking the time to reply.
To Reggie: Please can you tell me how I can access this 1841 census you found?This is so that I can have a look for myself.
Kind regards Sheena

Gins

Gins Report 22 Feb 2014 13:46

Hi Sheena

That 1841 census is at Ancestry.co.uk

If you want a copy, send me your email address by PM and I'll forward it on to you

jax

jax Report 22 Feb 2014 13:48

Do you have access to Genes records? If so you should find it on there by typing in one of the names listed

The census Reggie listed is from Find my Past which should be the same as GR

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 22 Feb 2014 22:14

Sheena ........................


good luck


I hope that the helpers on here have managed to succeed where the professionals couldn't :-)