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Kat

Kat Report 9 Sep 2008 20:11

Edith Heald (1902-1957) married to George Horwell born around 1894 and they both believed to have lived in the Yorkshire area.

Have tried searching for records online but not found anything as yet.

Anyone able to help please?

Joan

Joan Report 9 Sep 2008 20:13

Is this George in 1901 with family?

1901 England Census
about George Horwell
Name: George Horwell
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Sarah Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Church Fenton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Acomb
Ecclesiastical parish: Acomb St Stephen
Town: Acomb
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Great Ouseburn
Sub registration district: Poppleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 130
Household Members: Name Age
Elsie Horwell 7
George Horwell 49
George Horwell 5
Maud Horwell 8
Sarah Jane Horwell 35
William Horwell 2




Joan

Joan Report 9 Sep 2008 20:14

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about George Horwell
Name: George Horwell
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Tadcaster
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 915

Kat

Kat Report 9 Sep 2008 20:16

I am not sure. Edith's death certificate listed a George on it as her partner. Edith had a son Kenneth Horwell (my grandfather) but no one seems to want to talk about Edith and her husband and other children. Kenneth was born in 1919 and died in 1992.

Kat

Kat Report 9 Sep 2008 20:21

Is there anyone I can write to who can send me a copy of the details?

I am trying to find how I can do a search on gravestones too...........!

I feel like I am stuck with this these two family members.

Kat

Kat Report 9 Sep 2008 20:24

Oh my ghosh! Really! I need to take another look then.

Have you got any more details on Edith Lupton? In terms of where she lived, other family members, etc. Anything?

Wow!

Joan

Joan Report 9 Sep 2008 20:27

This is the only individual with the name Edith, Lupton, etc. that was born in 1902

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Florence Edith Lupton
Name: Florence Edith Lupton
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Wakefield
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 24

Kat

Kat Report 9 Sep 2008 20:33

Now I am confused - two Luptons here.

I now need to go back and look at the death certificate of Edith to make sure I am working with the correct info. Not sure if Matilda comes into play. Florence Edith however seems to be on the right track.

1919 was the year my grandfather was born and his birth certificate has no father listed on it. So, not sure if Matilda and Joseph belong to him.

Thank you so much, all of you for helping out. I will now track down the Lupton side and see if I have more luck.

Take care all.

Kat

Joan

Joan Report 9 Sep 2008 20:35

Are you sure that Edith was married? There is another record for a Kenneth Horwell born 1920, mother's maiden name Horwell in York.

Joan

Joan

Joan Report 9 Sep 2008 20:37

Kat,

was your grandfather Kenneth the only child?

Joan

Kat

Kat Report 9 Sep 2008 20:43

Oh my ghosh............! I am getting very confused.

Think the best thing to do would be to give you the information I am certain of and that is Kenneth's year of birth was 1919 and he died in 1992. His wife is still alive and is called Renee Horwell.

As far as I am aware Kenneth had step brothers. That is all his wife would tell me. On Kenneth's birth certificate, his father was not listed and no I am not certain about Edith being married. Maybe she wasn't which is why I cannot find any records.

HELP!

Joan

Joan Report 9 Sep 2008 20:48

Kat, check Edith's death certificate to see exactly what is on it.

Joan

Kat

Kat Report 9 Sep 2008 20:55

Ok, got Edith's death certificate here.

Died 24 June 1957 at 71 Torre Road, Leeds,
Name: Edith Heald
Female
55 years
Wife of Squire Heald Engineer's Labourer
Cause of death: Carcinoma of Larynx
Details of informant: S Heald Widower of Diceased present at death.
Death registered 25 June 1957
Registrar: C H Dewes

Registration District: Leeds
Subdistrict: Leeds East

Not sure where I got the name George Horwell from!!

Joan

Joan Report 9 Sep 2008 20:59

1901 England Census
about Squire Heald
Name: Squire Heald
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Harry
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Brooks 32
Elizabeth Heald 29
Harry Heald 33
Harry Heald 2 months
Margaret Heald 6
Squire Heald 4
William Heald 2
William Shaw 27



Joan

Joan Report 9 Sep 2008 21:00

Kat, perhaps Heald is a 2nd marriage

Kat

Kat Report 9 Sep 2008 21:06

Blimey!

I don't understand though - Does Squire Heald (born 1897) have a first name?

And all those people in the household - are they children and grandchildren? Apart from Elizabeth who is obviously his wife. I can't understand the family structure.

Thank you so much for this though.

Will get to him in a minute. Still trying to work out Edith.

You've been great.

Kat

Kat Report 9 Sep 2008 21:08

I think you may be right AnnMc in that Kenneth was not Squire Heald's son.

Joan it is possible Edith married twice although I don't think she ever married Kenneth's father.

Joan

Joan Report 9 Sep 2008 21:09

Kat,

Okay, I can not find any marriage for a Florence E. or Edith Lupton to a Horwell. Not to totally confuse you but maybe others may confirm--is it possible that Florence Edith Lupton did not marry Kenneth's father but gave him the father's name of Horwell. Then she later married Squire Heald??

Joan

Joan

Joan Report 9 Sep 2008 21:14

Eliza Brooks is a visitor
William Shaw is a brother in law
Harry Heald is Head (father)
Elizabeth is wife (mother)
The remainder Heald indviduals are sons and daughters

Joan

Joan Report 9 Sep 2008 21:17

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Skuire Heald
Name: Skuire Heald
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 448