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Hi - 'yes' - all Aus State Libraries offer an 'Ask a Librarian' service - they will check their records - mainly electoral rolls (past & present) and newspaper death notices up to present day.(dates/location would help).
Suggest you try the 'NSW State Library' (on-line) -they can then trace your people -and see when any of them are 'missing'.
Valerie
WAus

This is the person whose estate they had claims against:

MACDONALD Lorna Jessie
Death notice 14NOV1997
Death 97
late of 'Kelvin', Bringelly and Cobbitty
Sydney Morning Herald 15NOV1997

http://ryersonindex.net/lookup.htm

I'm not sure how you would get copies of death notices now. I wonder whether AM Jones' names suggest a connection possibly with both that person and RM Vincent's adoptive mother.



https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/240772755/25948402

Commonwealth of Australia Gazette. General (National : 1977 - 1987)
Tue 4 Nov 1980 [Issue No.G44] Page 39

LONG-TERM TRANSFERS TO POSITIONS WHICH ATTRACT A HIGHER DUTIES ALLOWANCE
Robert Malcolm Vincent - Teacher ... Tennant Creek Area School

1980 electoral roll

Robert Malcolm Vincent 1980 New South Wales district Lyne

In Lyne that year there were 4 male Vincents and 3 female (one of whom died in 2014 at age 91 so not her), so he may or may not have been married. :-)
Maybe ArgyllGran will check the details!

Or, do you know whether he was married (from the electoral rolls you have) and his wife's name?

Hi Valerie, thanks for that, and I gave Joanne the link for NSW a little earlier.


This is the link for QLD if the RM Vincent listed in the phone book there now might be him:

http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/services/ask-us


Joanne -- is there reason to think that the sister's report of his death is not true?

Robert Malcolm Vincent (teacher) in NSW ER's on Ancestry -

1972, in Cooma, no other Vincents listed with him.
In 1977 he's with a Patricia Anne Vincent, teacher, in Goulburn South.

I don't see her in other years, though there are other people of the same name in NSW.

The Robert in Lyne 1980 isn't the same person, unless he's changed his occupation.
Listed as a station overseer.

I don't see any other Vincents listed in Lyne in 1980, on the ER image.
Where did you find the other names, JC?

In 1980 A M Jones is living in Wentworth, NSW, apparently with a husband, Robert Maxwell Lamond Jones, chartered accountant.

I just did a search for the surname Vincent with keyword Lyne. Since I can't see the "city" name, it may probably be that they were in different parts of Lyne district of course. And I couldn't check the Roberts to make sure.

I have to get my worldwide back ... ! Gave the Visa a rest this month, so next billing cycle. :-) (I'm using an Ancestry sub kindly lent to me by another member here, shh!)

Yes I imagine the "Jones" is a coincidence, and her connection with the deceased is the other surname. I wonder what Robert's was though. Since he and she were named together as creditors of the estate, I do think it could be worth contacting her for any info she might be able to give, since she is readily reachable.

Lorna Jessie MacDonald
https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=184281053

I wonder about this death notice

VINCENT Patricia Anne
Funeral notice 04DEC2015
Death 61
late of Boondall
Courier Mail (Brisbane) 09DEC2015

If Robert were deceased, one would expect a death notice to have been published and indexed by Ryerson.

There is an R Vincent listing in the same post code as Boondall:

https://www.whitepages.com.au/residential/results?name=vincent&location=Queensland%204034&givenName=r

Re Vincents in Lyne -

Robert is in Gloucester, a sub-division of Lyne, and is the only Vincent in Gloucester - to clarify what I said before.

Ancestry doesn't recognise Lyne as a place-name in Australia, on the search form.
Lyne is apparently an electoral division, not a specific place.
So all the Vincents in Australia come up if I try searching for Lyne ! All 62,684 of them.

Having Googled a list of the main places in the Lyne division, and searching for each place individually, or at least the ones Ancestry recognises, I've only found two Vincents in Forster (Noeleen Jean and Sidney Hedley); and two in Taree (Georges Emile and Pauline Frances) .

But you should have done as I did, much easier! exact keyword: Lyne :-)

Those are the names I got on that search, so that rules them out as household members of Robert for sure.

I just love the Aussies and all their made-up women's names starting with "N": Noeleen. Narelle, Narina, Narita, Narda ... !

That search method doesn't work when I try it on Ancestry, JC!

However, we've ruled those people out, so that's fine.
Not that it gets us any further with Robert.

JoonieCloonie, i have sent an email to the burrawangvillage link :) so will wait to see if i hear back.
I wonder who passed away then...
Thank you for all this information i appreciate it alot :)

Roberts sister told me that she went to the bmd office in Sydney to see if can find out any thing. Sent me an email saying that Robert has passed away in 2015 while travelling from Alice Springs to Darwin and a road train clipped him and he crashed. That is all she saw, she said, but surely would be a date etc...
Robert was a teacher also forgot to add as saw above about him teaching

I received an email from Annie Jones :( :(

Hi Joanne,

I’m very sorry to have to tell you that you have the wrong Robert Malcolm Vincent. My brother was not adopted, was not born in England, and his birthday is not 17th April.

I wish you success in your search, and am sorry to be the bearer of bad news!

Sincerely,

Annie

Oh noes. Who would have thought, two RMVs who seem to be about the same age.

Well at least she was friendly!

I wonder whether she could clear up the other info for you - was her brother the one married to Patricia Anne, for example, and the one who was a teacher, etc., and/or had the registered company Hawell Services.

And to push the envelope a little, did he die in 2015? (It sounds as if he is still living, when she says "his birthday IS not ...")

This would be of great help in avoiding following red herrings down false trails!

Looks like "Ask a Librarian" may be the best route to try.

I have emailed Annie back asking some questions, so will wait for reply, will let you know what she says :)
I have already asked a Libararian and have a week till get a reply so fingers crossed :)

Got a reply back from Annie and she said that Robert is still alive, never married some one called Patricia and no to the other questions :(

So the teacher who married Patricia may well be your Robert.

Not sure where we go from there, though! Wait for the Librarian, I suppose.

National Archives Australia

A1877
19/05/1964

FAIRSTAR

VINCENT Bernard Baynard born 22 April 1918; Margaret (nee Jones) born 14 November 1924; Robert Malcolm born 17 April 1952; Alyn Bernard born 5 August 1953; Susan Gwyneth born 18 October 1954; travelled per FAIRSTAR departing UK on 19 May 1964 under the Assisted Passage Migration Scheme


Access status: Open

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980

Name: Alyn Bernard Vincent

Gender: Male

Electoral Year: 1977

Subdistrict: Springwood

State: New South Wales

District: Macquarie

Country: Australia

Residence Address: 87 Cross St, Wrmoo 2775

Occupation: Stdnt

If the librarian can provide you with a published obituary for the death I considered:

VINCENT Patricia Anne
Funeral notice 04DEC2015
Death 61
late of Boondall
Courier Mail (Brisbane) 09DEC2015

it could well clarify whether your Robert was her husband, and whether he died in 2015 (since she died very late in the year).


What a mine of info from Choccy there. I am definitely not great on Aussie travel records myself!


Surely there is only one Alyn.

https://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?abn=21455079465

References to him here

https://www.voc.uk.com/net/mphindex.pdf

e.g.

Alyn B. Vincent –
“Our Adventure”
Hot-air balloon ride
471
23
April 1988


Yaay!!?

https://www.facebook.com/alyn.vincent

Just google "Alyn Vincent" and tons of stuff.

There can only be one, the right age ........


He is a major Vincent motorcycle fan, which gives me an opening to listen to one of my favourite songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0kJdrfzjAg

Good find, Choccy!