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***Michelle***
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26 Nov 2008 19:47 |
John
Unless John T is father of John James?This is the family on the 1891 is this the 2 John's you are after?
1891 England Census about John Fletcher Name: John Fletcher Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Oldbury Ecclesiastical parish: Oldbury Town: Oldbury County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: West Bromwich Sub registration district: Oldbury ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Fletcher 45 Mary A Fletcher 50 John J Fletcher 22 Annie Fletcher 20 William Fletcher 17
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26 Nov 2008 20:05 |
HI MICHELLE, YES I HAVE THAT ONE (O1 530) PLUS 01C 660 AND O1 554 ON THE FIRST CERT ( MARRIAGE) SHE PUT FATHER DOWN AS CHARLES SMITH, SECOND ONE FATHER ROBERT???
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26 Nov 2008 20:28 |
Hi Michelle
Great service as usual from you. I think that you have found all the info. that I was looking for re my Fletchers.
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John
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***Michelle***
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27 Nov 2008 12:46 |
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Anthony
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27 Nov 2008 17:03 |
Michelle,
Very many thanks !
Today is Thanksgiving so I shall have to go over these very many data on the weekend.
Anthony
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27 Nov 2008 19:45 |
hi it is me again lesley a new look up a george chandler birth abt 1800 to 1803 wife sarah birth abt 1810 to 1813 if you could help with finding any more kids i have one andrew birth abt 1847 and his wife was jessie i have all andrew kids but with a bit of luck find his siblings your's xxxxx lesley p.s if you could find sarah maiden name and also jessie i know jessie was birth is scotland
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***Michelle***
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27 Nov 2008 21:28 |
lesley
Could you let me know where George Chandler and wife were born please?
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***Michelle***
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Cara
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27 Nov 2008 22:11 |
Hi Michelle
Please could you look up Michael McCarthy for me on the 1871 census. He was born about 1856 in Cardiff. His mother is Ellen McCarthy. Trying to find out fathers name and who else was living in house. Could you also look on the 1861 census. Thank so much for help.
Cara
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27 Nov 2008 23:54 |
Cara
Here is the 1861 1st.Father's name was John
1861 Wales Census about John Mc Carthy Name: John Mc Carthy Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Registration district: Cardiff Sub registration district: Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 242 Household Members: Name Age John Mc Carthy 40 Ellen Mc Carthy 37 Mary Mc Carthy 11 Margaret Mc Carthy 8 Michael Mc Carthy 5 John Mc Carthy 3 Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo Johanna Tyner 60
1861 Wales Census about Ellen Mc Carthy Name: Ellen Mc Carthy Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Gender: Female Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Registration district: Cardiff Sub registration district: Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 242 Household Members: Name Age John Mc Carthy 40 Ellen Mc Carthy 37 Mary Mc Carthy 11 Margaret Mc Carthy 8 Michael Mc Carthy 5 John Mc Carthy 3 Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo Johanna Tyner 60
1861 Wales Census about Mary Mc Carthy Name: Mary Mc Carthy Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Female Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Registration district: Cardiff Sub registration district: Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 242 Household Members: Name Age John Mc Carthy 40 Ellen Mc Carthy 37 Mary Mc Carthy 11 Margaret Mc Carthy 8 Michael Mc Carthy 5 John Mc Carthy 3 Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo Johanna Tyner 60
1861 Wales Census about Margaret Mc Carthy Name: Margaret Mc Carthy Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Female Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Registration district: Cardiff Sub registration district: Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 242 Household Members: Name Age John Mc Carthy 40 Ellen Mc Carthy 37 Mary Mc Carthy 11 Margaret Mc Carthy 8 Michael Mc Carthy 5 John Mc Carthy 3 Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo Johanna Tyner 60
1861 Wales Census about Michael Mc Carthy Name: Michael Mc Carthy Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Registration district: Cardiff Sub registration district: Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 242 Household Members: Name Age John Mc Carthy 40 Ellen Mc Carthy 37 Mary Mc Carthy 11 Margaret Mc Carthy 8 Michael Mc Carthy 5 John Mc Carthy 3 Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo Johanna Tyner 60
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28 Nov 2008 00:00 |
Cara
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1861 Wales Census about John Mc Carthy Name: John Mc Carthy Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Registration district: Cardiff Sub registration district: Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 242 Household Members: Name Age John Mc Carthy 40 Ellen Mc Carthy 37 Mary Mc Carthy 11 Margaret Mc Carthy 8 Michael Mc Carthy 5 John Mc Carthy 3 Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo Johanna Tyner 60
1861 Wales Census about Ellen Mc Carthy Name: Ellen Mc Carthy Age: 2 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Female Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Registration district: Cardiff Sub registration district: Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 242 Household Members: Name Age John Mc Carthy 40 Ellen Mc Carthy 37 Mary Mc Carthy 11 Margaret Mc Carthy 8 Michael Mc Carthy 5 John Mc Carthy 3 Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo Johanna Tyner 60
1861 Wales Census about Johanna Tyner Name: Johanna Tyner Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Registration district: Cardiff Sub registration district: Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 242 Household Members: Name Age John Mc Carthy 40 Ellen Mc Carthy 37 Mary Mc Carthy 11 Margaret Mc Carthy 8 Michael Mc Carthy 5 John Mc Carthy 3 Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo Johanna Tyner 60
John a Labourer Johanna a Widow and a Washerwoman
difficult to read the address no 13 Duffryn Street
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***Michelle***
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28 Nov 2008 00:30 |
Cara
The 1871 he is not with his family or maybe missed off??Can't see him elsewhere and isn't dead?
1871 Wales Census about John Mc Carthy Name: John Mc Carthy Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Cardiff Sub registration district: Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 14b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 168 Household Members: Name Age John Mc Carthy 55 Ellen Mc Carthy 46 Margaret Mc Carthy 18 John Mc Carthy 12 Ellen Mc Carthy 10 Johanna Mc Carthy 7 Johanna Tyner 70
and here is the xtra sibling
1871 Wales Census about Johanna Mc Carthy Name: Johanna Mc Carthy Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Female Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Cardiff Sub registration district: Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 14b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 168 Household Members: Name Age John Mc Carthy 55 Ellen Mc Carthy 46 Margaret Mc Carthy 18 John Mc Carthy 12 Ellen Mc Carthy 10 Johanna Mc Carthy 7 Johanna Tyner 70
John still a Labourer and address unchanged. Johanna a Annuitant
Well as long as you are certain his mother was Ellen and sure on birthyear this is the correct family however to make you aware their were a few Michael's on the census records within 10 years of yours and with mother's Ellen and also 1 born 1856 with mother Mary.I would recommend getting the marriage cert if he married to be 100%.
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28 Nov 2008 09:09 |
Hi Michelle, Could you see if this person is still alive on the 1861 census please. Elizabeth Lee b. 1793/6 Harlow, Essex In 1851 she was living at 2, Caroline Street, Hackney ( a widow on parish benefit.) with 2 of her children James Lee b. 1829 Hackney Charlotte Lee b. 1831 Hackney Many thanks Regards Mary
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28 Nov 2008 11:19 |
hi sorry but dont have any thing to go on other than it could be up north round about in scotland
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***Michelle***
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28 Nov 2008 22:27 |
Mary
Can see no sign of her on the 1861 census and saw a poss for daughter Charlotte as a Servant which kind of makes me feel mum could have died?Trouble is there are a few poss deaths in the Hackney area.
Elizabeth Lee 1852 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record
Elizabeth Lee 1851 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record
Elizabeth Lee 1852 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record
Elizabeth Lee 1857 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record
Elizabeth Lee 1858 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record
Elizabeth Lee 1858 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record
Elizabeth Lee 1860 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex
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28 Nov 2008 22:34 |
Hi Michelle, Many thanks for your help. Regards Mary
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28 Nov 2008 22:51 |
Lesley
Got them!!Ok i will show you the 1891 1st as it shows Andrew who was born in Essex and his wife Jessie(Jesse)you were correct she was born in Scotland.I know you have all his kids so i won't break this record down,the main reason i am showing it is so you can see mother Sarah is living with them and then i will show you the 1851 of Andrew as a young child and his parents and his siblings.
1891 England Census about Andrew Chandler Name: Andrew Chandler Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jesse Gender: Male Where born: Essex, England Civil Parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Andrew Chandler 42 Jesse Chandler 41 George Chandler 19 William Chandler 17 Miriam Chandler 13 Sarah Chandler 11 Thomas Chandler 8 Susan Chandler 5 Charles Chandler 2 Sarah Chandler 79
Here is Sarah listed as Grandma to Andrew's children.She was not from Scotland she was born in London
1891 England Census about Sarah Chandler Name: Sarah Chandler Age: 79 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812 Relation: Grandmother, Grandma (Grandmother) Gender: Female Where born: Poplar, London, England Civil Parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Andrew Chandler 42 Jesse Chandler 41 George Chandler 19 William Chandler 17 Miriam Chandler 13 Sarah Chandler 11 Thomas Chandler 8 Susan Chandler 5 Charles Chandler 2 Sarah Chandler 79
Ok so i know you have later info on Andrew so now to Andrew as a child.
1851 England Census about George Chandler Name: George Chandler Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Poplar County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub registration district: Poplar ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 69 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Chandler 2 George Chandler 47 George Chandler 11 Louisa Chandler 5 Sarah Chandler 38 Sarah Jane Chandler 7 Mo
1851 England Census about Sarah Chandler Name: Sarah Chandler Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: George Gender: Female Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Poplar County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub registration district: Poplar ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 69 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Chandler 2 George Chandler 47 George Chandler 11 Louisa Chandler 5 Sarah Chandler 38 Sarah Jane Chandler 7 Mo
1851 England Census about George Chandler Name: George Chandler Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Poplar County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub registration district: Poplar ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 69 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Chandler 2 George Chandler 47 George Chandler 11 Louisa Chandler 5 Sarah Chandler 38 Sarah Jane Chandler 7 Mo
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28 Nov 2008 22:54 |
Lesley
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1851 England Census about Louisa Chandler Name: Louisa Chandler Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Poplar County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub registration district: Poplar ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 69 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Chandler 2 George Chandler 47 George Chandler 11 Louisa Chandler 5 Sarah Chandler 38 Sarah Jane Chandler 7 Mo
1851 England Census about Andrew Chandler Name: Andrew Chandler Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Plaistow, Essex, England Civil Parish: Poplar County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub registration district: Poplar ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 69 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Chandler 2 George Chandler 47 George Chandler 11 Louisa Chandler 5 Sarah Chandler 38 Sarah Jane Chandler 7 Mo
1851 England Census about Sarah Jane Chandler Name: Sarah Jane Chandler Age: 7 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Poplar County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub registration district: Poplar ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 69 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Chandler 2 George Chandler 47 George Chandler 11 Louisa Chandler 5 Sarah Chandler 38 Sarah Jane Chandler 7 Mo
George a Glassmaker
Address 1 West Street
Will look for more for you.
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28 Nov 2008 22:57 |
Hi Michelle, Would it be possible for you to carry out a check for an Elizabeth MacPherson. She was born in 1928 in Canada. The family returned to the UK in 1936. The only other piece of info I have found is she, (if it's her) and another Macpherson sailed from Southampton in 1949 bound for Halifax, Canda. Could this be my Aunt and who is the other Macpherson, (possibly my gran)? Many thanks in advance, Willie.
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28 Nov 2008 23:05 |
Lesley
Here is the 1861
1861 England Census about George Chandler Name: George Chandler Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803 Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Poplar All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub registration district: Poplar ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Chandler 12 George Chandler 58 James Chandler 11 Sarah Chandler 48 Thomas Chandler 7 William Chandler 9 Lucy Rochester 4 Mary Rochester 44 William Rochester 34
1861 England Census about Sarah Chandler Name: Sarah Chandler Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Gender: Female Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Poplar All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub registration district: Poplar ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Chandler 12 George Chandler 58 James Chandler 11 Sarah Chandler 48 Thomas Chandler 7 William Chandler 9 Lucy Rochester 4 Mary Rochester 44 William Rochester 34
1861 England Census about Andrew Chandler Name: Andrew Chandler Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Gender: Male Where born: Barking, Essex, England Civil Parish: Poplar All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub registration district: Poplar ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Chandler 12 George Chandler 58 James Chandler 11 Sarah Chandler 48 Thomas Chandler 7 William Chandler 9 Lucy Rochester 4 Mary Rochester 44 William Rochester 34
1861 England Census about James Chandler Name: James Chandler Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Gender: Male Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Poplar All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub registration district: Poplar ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Chandler 12 George Chandler 58 James Chandler 11 Sarah Chandler 48 Thomas Chandler 7 William Chandler 9 Lucy Rochester 4 Mary Rochester 44 William Rochester 34
1861 England Census about William Chandler Name: William Chandler Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Gender: Male Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Poplar All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub registration district: Poplar ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Chandler 12 George Chandler 58 James Chandler 11 Sarah Chandler 48 Thomas Chandler 7 William Chandler 9 Lucy Rochester 4 Mary Rochester 44 William Rochester 34
1861 England Census about Thomas Chandler Name: Thomas Chandler Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Poplar All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub registration district: Poplar ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Chandler 12 George Chandler 58 James Chandler 11 Sarah Chandler 48 Thomas Chandler 7 William Chandler 9 Lucy Rochester 4 Mary Rochester 44 William Rochester 34
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28 Nov 2008 23:14 |
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The Rochester family i believe live in the house next door and are not part of Chandler family.
George a Glass Maker Andrew a Glass Grinder
Address 6 Duke Street
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