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David

David Report 14 Nov 2008 16:23

james brown is on his daughters marriage certificate as a bootmaker, margaret married george wood in 1883 she was living at 9 ingliston street edinburgh, in 1881 she was working as a domestic servant in edinburgh living with the family she worked for(aged 17) I have her marriage certificate but seem to be struggling to find her earlier than 1881. dont know of any siblings.

Michele

Michele Report 14 Nov 2008 16:25

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These are the details for all individuals who lived with Isabella Summers on the night of the census.
1901 census record for household of Isabella Summers «Back to results
Address Front St Private House
Civil Parish Bedlington
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Pauls Choppington
Parliamentary Borough or Division Morpeth
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Bedlingtonshire
Administrative County Northumberland

Householder 1
Name Elizabeth Summers
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 4
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Juvenile
Employment Status
Where Born Greenhead Northd
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Isabella Summers
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 24
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Greenhead Northd
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name John Summers
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 2
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Juvenile
Employment Status
Where Born Greenhead Northd
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Thomas Summers
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 25
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Coal Hewer
Employment Status
Where Born Barrington Northd
Language
Infirmity

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 14 Nov 2008 16:33

Michele,
I will not be able to find anymore then you can at the moment as you have the 1901 cencus, untill the 1911 cencus is released!!

Sorry

Kirsty
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Michele

Michele Report 14 Nov 2008 16:41

thanks kirsty i no theres 1 more sibling dont no there name feel like im wasting your time thanks michelle

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 14 Nov 2008 17:03

David,

?????1891?????

Name: James Brown
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Helen
Gender: Male
Where born: Stow, Edinburghshire
Registration Number: 699
Registration district: Stow
Civil Parish: Stow
County: Midlothian
Address: Main St
Occupation: Shoemaker
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 60
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1891_370
Household Members: Name Age
Helen Brown 89 ~wife????
Herbert C Brown 8
James Brown 41
Mary B Brown 2
Sarah J Brown 10
William Brown 12
Thomas Richardson 55 ~lodger

this looks better

1881

Name: James Brown
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Helen
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Kilmarnock
Registration Number: 644/14
Registration district: Kinning Park
Civil Parish: Glasgow Kinning Park
County: Lanarkshire
Address: No 2 St James St.
Occupation: Bootmaker
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 55
Line: 17
Roll: cssct1881_251
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Brown 9
Ellen Brown 16
Helen Brown 50
James Brown 50
John Brown 22
Mary Brown 18

or

1881

Name: James Brown
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Helen
Gender: Male
Where born: Abernethy, Perthshire
Registration Number: 406
Registration district: Auchtermuchty
Civil Parish: Auchtermuchty
County: Fife
Address: Backwynd
Occupation: Shoemaker
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 88
Line: 25
Roll: cssct1881_113
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Brown 17
Edward Brown 13
Helen Brown 51
James Brown 51
Mary S Brown 10

Can you give the witness names on the marriage cert, there might be a clue?



Kirsty

Kirsty Report 14 Nov 2008 17:04

Michele,
PLEASE don't feel like that but as mother's maiden names don't start till 1911 we are waiting for the cencus then we will ALL be able to move foward!

Kirsty
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Kirsty

Kirsty Report 14 Nov 2008 17:20

Michele,

Births Mar 1897 (>99%)
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Summers Elizabeth Morpeth 10b 408


Births Sep 1898 (>99%)
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Summers John Morpeth 10b 459


Births Dec 1903 (>99%)
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Summers Jane Morpeth 10b 439


Get Isabella & Thomas's marriage cert to get their father's names.

Let meknow when you get it and I will look through the cencus and see if there are any name connections.

Kirsty

David

David Report 14 Nov 2008 17:58

The witnesses are thomas mark and M. Eidwood/gridwood?? (not sure what it says) doubt that will be helpful... its frustrating as I have the original marriage certificate and yet cant even get so far as to find her aged 7, or her parents...

i dont know if any of those will be them either to be honest is it possible that one or both of her parents were deceased when she was married and this just wasnt mentioned on the marriage certificate?

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 17 Nov 2008 11:07

David,

I have been searching again over the weekend and still nothing more

Sorry

Kirsty

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 18 Nov 2008 10:58

n

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 19 Nov 2008 10:33

nudge

Melanie

Melanie Report 19 Nov 2008 14:34

Hi Mad mum of 4,

I am a mad mum of 1 but could really use your help with a mystery that is really bugging me.

My G.Grandad was Ivo Kerry dob 1893 - dod 1947. He was born/died in headington Oxford and married an Elsie May Ward in 1917.

I ordered his birth cert, which shows his Dad as a William Kerry (professional Crickter) and mum as Alice Kerry (nee Hall).

The only marraige that could be found for them was in 1876 in oxford him as William Francis Kerry ( Dad Richard Kerry) and Alice Ann Hall (dad Francis Hall).

What I am looking for is them in census records, I think I have found them in 1881 him down as Francis H? - but he is not a professional cricketer.

However they all dissappear in 1901 census records.

My great uncle says Ivo had a brother, but only know him as Colonel Kerry!

Any info whatsoever would be so much appreciated.

Thanks so much in advance

Melanie

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 19 Nov 2008 17:04

Melanie,

1891

Name: Francis Wm Kerry
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice A
Gender: Male
Where born: Cowley, Oxfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Forest Hill With Shotover
Ecclesiastical parish: Forest Hill
Town: Forest Hill
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Wm Kerry 36 ~Brickfield Labourer
Alice A Kerry 33
George Rob Kerry 12
Henry Ric Kerry 11
Arthur Jos Kerry 7
Walter Kerry 3
Alice Eliz Kerry 2
Albert Kerry 1

1881
Name: William Kerry
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Headington Quarry, Oxfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Headington
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street address: Near The Old Chapel
Condition as to marriage: Married
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Kerry 21
George Kerry 3
Henry Kerry 2
William Kerry 24 Brickyard Labourer

I can't find any cricket players

But the info I have given you does tie in with what you have.

Hope this helps

Kirsty


1871

Name: Francis W Kerry
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard P
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Cowley, Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Headington
Ecclesiastical parish: Headington Quarry
Town: Headington Quarry
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred O Kerry 3 months
Charlotte Kerry 10
Francis W Kerry 14
George P Kerry 7
Henry Kerry 12
Percival E Kerry 5
Richard P Kerry 47 Dealer General
Richard P Kerry 69
Sarah Kerry 40
Sarah Kerry 15

Melanie

Melanie Report 19 Nov 2008 18:19

Cheers for finding that out for me - as they Kids are the same he must have used the name Francis instead of his first name - they must be the same.

I dont suppose you had any luck in 1901 did you, I have got totally stuck there!

Thank you for all your help

Melanie xx

Just remebered, the original family rumour is that Ivo was from Ireland, which I now know is not true. But it could be that they were in ireland in 1901?? I wouldn't even know where to start there - did they do censuses??

If not will just have to qiat till next year to see if they pop up in 1911 census!

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 19 Nov 2008 21:08

Melanie,

Look what I have found

Deaths Mar 1892
Kerry Albert 2 Headington 3a 702
Kerry Alice Elizabeth 3 Headington 3a 701

I would send away for one of the death certs you might get a clue from them.

I am still looking though!

Kirsty
X

Melanie

Melanie Report 19 Nov 2008 21:24

Oooh, thats sound scary - does that mean they died around the same time??

I will defo order a death cert and see where that leads me.

Also this would have been the year before Ivo was born ... interesting.

Thank you again for all your help.



Melanie x

I cant believe I put defo, I mean definately!!

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 20 Nov 2008 16:41

Let me Know when It arrives Melanie

Kirsty
X

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 24 Nov 2008 18:09

n

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 25 Nov 2008 11:30

nudge

Michele

Michele Report 1 Dec 2008 16:28

hi kirsty did you have chance to look at the information l sent you thanks michelle.