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Diane

Diane Report 2 May 2009 21:37

George Herbert Hirst was a well known cricketer. His birth certificate states that his mother was a Mary E Woolhouse. He has no father on the birth cert. I can only find him in the 1901 census with his wife Emma and two children. There is a book about him which states that his grandparents brought him up in the Brown Cow Inn in Kirkheaton. They were Sarah maria and James. How can I find out who mary E Woolhouse was? He did have an aunt called Mary Elizabeth Hirst and wondered if she could have been his mother. Why would she have been called Woolhouse ? I can't find a marriage cert for Mary Elizabeth Hirst and a Woolhouse. Help!!!!!!!!!!

Diane

Diane Report 2 May 2009 21:46

He was born in 1871 in Huddersfield.

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2009 22:13

1851 England Census
Name: Mary Elizabeth Hirst
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah Maria
Gender: Female
Where born: Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Kirkheaton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Almondbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 89
Household Members: Name Age
James Hirst 27
Sarah Maria Hirst 24
Mary Elizabeth Hirst 4
Hannah Hirst 10 Mo
Sarah Hirst 62
Nancy Gledhill 13

Father James was an Innkeeper and Farmer.
Sarah Hirst aged 62 was Mother.

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2009 22:35

1881 England Census
Name: Sarah Maria Hirst
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Kirkheaton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Saint Marys Brown Cow Inn
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Innkeeper & Farmer Of 7 Acres

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Kirkheaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Maria Hirst 54
Amelia Hirst 21 (single)
Louisa Hirst 18 (single)
James Hirst 15
Job Hirst 13
Henry Hirst 10
Annie Maria Hirst 5 (grandaughter)



Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2009 22:39

1871 England Census
Name: James Hirst
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Kirkheaton
Ecclesiastical parish: Kirkheaton
Town: Kirkheaton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Kirkheaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
James Hirst 46
Sarah Maria Hirst 44
Mary Hirst 24
Sarah Hirst 19
Thomas Hirst 15
Amelia Hirst 11
Louisa Hirst 8
James Hirst 5
Job Hirst 3
Henry Hirst 6 months



Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2009 22:47

1861 England Census
Name: Mary Hirst
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah Maria
Gender: Female
Where born: Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Kirkheaton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Kirkheaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 131
Household Members: Name Age
James Hirst 36
Sarah Maria Hirst 34
Mary Hirst 14
Sarah Hirst 9
Thomas Hirst 5
Betty Hirst 3
Amelia Hirst 1
Sarah Hirst 70





Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2009 22:51

1891 England Census
Name: Sarah M Hirst
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Kirkheaton
Ecclesiastical parish: Kirkheaton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Kirkheaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah M Hirst 64
Job Hirst 23
Henry Hirst 20
Annie M Hirst 15
William Etchell 28



Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2009 22:58

As you can see, there is no mention of George Herbert Hirst on any of the censuses with James and Sarah Maria, even though it has been stated that his grandparents brought him up.

'George Herbert Hirst was born in Kirkheaton on 7 September 1871
at the Brown Cow public house in St. Mary’s Lane. The pub was run by his
mother’s parents James and Sarah Maria Hirst. James also farmed six
acres attached to the pub.
George Herbert left school at the age of 10 and went to work as a wirer
for a hand-loom weaver. He also helped his grandfather droving the cattle'

so where was he from 1871 to 1891 census and beyond to 1901??

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2009 23:04

Births Jun 1847 (>99%)
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Woolhouse Mary Elizabeth Huddersfield 22 378

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2009 23:07

Marriages Mar 1879 (>99%)
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HIRST Charles Huddersfield 9a 341
WOOLHOUSE Mary Elizabeth Huddersfield 9a 341

CURIOUSER AND CURIOUSER!

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2009 23:18

1851 England Census
Name: Mary E Woolhouse
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Kirkheaton
Town: Kirkheaton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Almondbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
George Woolhouse 35
Mary Woolhouse 38
Charles J Woolhouse 9
Martha A Woolhouse 6
Thomas Woolhouse 5
Mary E Woolhouse 3
Joseph G Woolhouse 2
Walter Woolhouse 1 Mo
Mary Innman 65



Netty

Netty Report 3 May 2009 00:26

Could this be George in 1891 ?


Name: George H Hirst
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 158 Broughton rd.

Occupation: ? Packer.

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

John Lucas 49
Annie Lucas 51
George H Hirst 21 <<<<<< Boarder. Single.
Frederick W Lucas 19 Son
George A Lucas 16 Son
Ethel Hirst 14 Boarder
Charles H Hirst 13 Boarder
Thomas Hirst 11 Boarder
Henry M Lucas 7

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3208; Folio 60; Page 1; GSU roll: 6098318.

Diane

Diane Report 3 May 2009 10:53

I did think that the census record of Charles Hirst in Manchester could have been him but was told by someone on ancestry that he was their ancestor and not the same family.

Diane xxx

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 3 May 2009 12:07

Out of curiosity, who was the informant on the birth certificate and what quarter was he registered?

I've found this birth at the same time as your George Hirst was born

Births Sep 1871 (>99%)
WOOLHOUSE George Herbert Huddersfield 9a 311

and I can't see any George Herbert Hirst's registered - just plain George's or George Henry's.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 3 May 2009 12:20


Mary Eliza Woolhouse Pedigree
Female

Birth:
Christening: 26 DEC 1847 Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England
Parents:
Father: George Woolhouse Family
Mother: Mary


Diane

Diane Report 3 May 2009 13:05

Yes that's him.

Diane

Diane Report 3 May 2009 13:11

I am beginning to think that my cousin has the wrong George Herbert Hirsts birth certificate.

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 3 May 2009 13:18

There were two George Hirst's registered in the September quarter of 1871 in Huddersfield

Births Sep 1871 (>99%)
HIRST George Huddersfield 9a 307
HIRST George Huddersfield 9a 350

No George Herberts but then Herbert could have been added at the christening possibly.

Choccy

Choccy Report 3 May 2009 13:25

Diane,

I think you're right that your cousin maybe has the wrong birth certificate. Can't believe that biography of him is wrong. He would have been found out as to his parentage.

His supposed actual date of birth was 7th September 1871. Still doesn't help with where he was at census time. It does say in one of his biographies that he left school at the age of 10 and went to work for a hand loom weaver, which would have been about 1881.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 3 May 2009 14:38

Or could this be your George in 1891??

1891 England Census
about George Herst
Name: George Herst
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Huddersfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Huddersfield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: Wool Cloth Finisher

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Huddersfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Herst 50 Widow?? 1841 Huddersfield
Frances E Herst 24 1867 Hudderfield Worsted Mender
George Herst 19 Huddersfield Wool Cloth Finisher<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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George Hirst Pedigree
Male

Christening: 18 SEP 1870 Mirfield, Yorkshire, England

Parents:
Father: John Hirst Family
Mother: Mary Hirst

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.