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Hugh Duncan

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Jadefish

Jadefish Report 27 Dec 2010 15:13

I want to find out what happened to my great grandfather Hugh Duncan. He was probably born 1844 but possibly 1835. Possibly born in Little Neston, Wirral, and then living in Liverpool. Married Ellen Curwen in 1863 and fathered James in 1866 and Hugh who died with his mother in 1871. Hugh then married Elizabeth Webster in 1871 and went on to have 5 children, the last being born in 1884. After that he just vanishes. He was a Master Mariner so perhaps he died at sea? The family seem to have lived in Merseyside but may have Scottish connections with Dunoon.

If anyone can help that would be great.

Clare

patchem

patchem Report 27 Dec 2010 16:37

Is his wife down as a widow in the 1891 census?
Thanks

patchem

patchem Report 27 Dec 2010 16:42

Just for information, family without him in 1881:
1881 England Census
Elizabeth Duncan
Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Walton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Street address: 55 Holden St Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Captains Wife Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby (Municipal)
ED, institution, or vessel: 40

Elizabeth Duncan 29
James Duncan 16
Sophia Duncan 8
Mary Elizabeth Duncan 6
Janet Maud Duncan 2
Infant Duncan
Luke Ellis Webster 23
Mary Olive Ryde 16

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3706; Folio: 39; Page: 24; GSU roll: 1341887.

patchem

patchem Report 27 Dec 2010 16:46

Claims married in 1891:
1891 England Census
Elizabeth Duncan Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: West Derby, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical parish: St Nathaniel County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby (Municipal)
ED, institution, or vessel: 36

Elizabeth Duncan 39
James Duncan 25
Mary E Duncan 16
Olive E Duncan 10
Janet M Duncan 12
William H Duncan 6
John Webster 42

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2995; Folio 32; Page 1; GSU roll: 6098105.

patchem

patchem Report 27 Dec 2010 16:50

Claims widowed in 1901:
1901 England Census
Elizabeth Duncan
Age: 49 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical parish: Edge Hill St Dunstan Earle Road County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 150

Elizabeth Duncan 49
William Duncan 16
Olive Duncan 20
George Wilson 12 boarder
Florence Wilson 10 boarder

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3488; Folio: 85; Page: 22.

Jadefish

Jadefish Report 27 Dec 2010 18:00

This is amazing. Yes, this is the wife of Hugh and his children by Elizabeth are my great Aunts and uncles, and his first child by his first wife is my grandfather.

I am unable to answer your questions as the site will no longer allow me to access the census details. I don't know why. But when it works again I will reply to you.

Looking up females is more difficult. Do I look them up under their married name from the time they are married, or do I keep their birth names? We have Elizabeth down as having been born in 1850 in Liverpool West Merseyside. I don't know where this info came from.

patchem

patchem Report 27 Dec 2010 19:50

Their married names will show in censuses and death records.

1911:
DUNCAN, Elizabeth Head Widow F 60 1851 Caretaker Wintree Lancs
DUNCAN, Sophia Daughter Spinster F 38 1873 Liverpool Lancs
WEIR, Janet Maud Daughter Married 11 years F 32 1879 Liverpool Lancs
DUNCAN, William Hugh Son Single M 26 1885 Clerk Liverpool Lancs
WEIR, Nina Duncan Granddaughter F 10 1901 School Liverpool Lancs
WEIR, William Alick Grandson M 9 1902 School Liverpool Lancs
WEIR, Donald Henry Grandson M 7 1904 School Liverpool Lancs
WEIR, Alex James Grandson M 2 1909 Dorylas Isle of Man

RG number: RG14 Piece: 22063 Reference: RG14PN22063 RG78PN1310A RD452 SD3 ED11 SN221
Registration District: Birkenhead Sub District: Wallasey Enumeration District: 11 Parish: Liscard
Address: 129 Sea Bank Road Liscard Cheshire County: Cheshire

Jadefish

Jadefish Report 27 Dec 2010 21:45

Yes, I found this an hour or so back and wasn't sure about it. I'm still finding it hard to navigate the site and to find how to get to replies etc.

I'm still no further in finding Hugh, but following Elizabeth Webster/Duncan has been instructive and interesting.

Thank you

Jadefish

Jadefish Report 27 Dec 2010 21:56

Meant to say that Elizabeth Webster is still down as head of household but not widowed in the 1891 census. She is widowed in the 1901 census.

kay elisabeth

kay elisabeth Report 25 Jan 2012 13:36

hugh duncan died in rosaria argentina 11april 1897 janet weir was my great great grandmother

Potty

Potty Report 25 Jan 2012 13:48

Kay, Jadefish may not still be following this thread. If you click on her name, you can send her a PM (personal message) through GR.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 14 Nov 2012 14:24

nnn for Ann

Roy

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Nov 2012 14:35

Kay

Look at..................................

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1314085

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 14 Nov 2012 14:43

Reggie, I never thought to add the link for Kay :-(


Roy