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Trying to find Benjamin Tubess

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Vera Report 31 May 2011 14:14

Hi Dee,
Hopefully it is the original, because it must be about somewhere.

Regards Vera


Mary Report 31 May 2011 14:35

On the marriage between Mary and John Tubbs it says her father is Benjamin a boat builder.It is written very clearly.
Plus as stated before it doesn't say he was Deceased.

if it is the same one born in Ramsgate Kent 1813 with Mary/Mary Sophia born 1819 doesn't it say he was a Boot and Shoe maker in 1851/61/and possibly died 1865??


Edit,been comparing signatures on marriage for John William Tubb and Mary on 1911 and they do look similar,especially the way she writes the Y.


Dee Report 31 May 2011 16:22

I concur, they do look very similar. Let's hope the certificate the Bromley office send me is the original.


Dee Report 31 May 2011 17:08

Could someone give me their opinion on the information given on Benjamin Ansell in the 1851 census where he is a boot and shoe maker. Beside the occupations of some of the men on the census there is something else written in brackets. Does it say (JMan) as in Journeyman? Also, Sophia
's age looks more like 28.

Mike *

Mike * Report 31 May 2011 18:09



Vera Report 31 May 2011 18:32

Hi Dee,

I agree it is Jman as in Journeyman and Sophia's age 28

Regards Vera


ChristinaS Report 31 May 2011 18:43

Benjamin Ansell (cordwainer) married Sophia as a widower, in 1846. So he could be the Benjamin Anstell in Gillingham on the 1841 census with his wife, Mary. This one is a shipwright (boat builder). Can anyone find a Benjamin Anstell who is a boot maker on the 1841 census?


Dee Report 31 May 2011 18:47

Thanks Vera,
I have sent a message to the GRO office asking them to tell me whether the copy of the marriage certificate (of George and Mary) is a true copy of the church records or one that was copied later. Apparently you get a reply within 5 days so we shall see. Bloomin naughty ancestors. ;-)


Dee Report 31 May 2011 18:51

I have been looking up Benjamin Ansell-Anstell-Answell etc. all day but none of them had an occupation that I could find. But I could have missed something.Will re-check.


Dee Report 31 May 2011 19:05

Benjn Ansell 1841
ANSELL, Benjn M 30 1811 VIEW ?? Outfitter
ANSELL, Mary D F 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
ANSELL, Benjn M 7 1834 VIEW
ANSELL, Mary F 6 1835 VIEW
ANSELL, Henry M 3 1838 Middlesex VIEW
ANSELL, Jemima F 1 1840 Middlesex VIEW
LOWDAS, Fredk W M 20 1821 VIEW
HELLEN, Heny M 14 1827 VIEW


Dee Report 31 May 2011 19:34

I didn't know what a cordwainer was so I googled it. It's a shoemaker.


Mary Report 31 May 2011 19:48

1851 Gillingham D2h > 26
13,Water Side
Benjamin Ansell Shipwright.
Mary Ansell
So this isn't the correct one,as he married Sophia 1846!!



ChristinaS Report 31 May 2011 20:01

Oh no Mary! Does that mean we're back to square one?


Dee Report 31 May 2011 20:07

Head is about to explode.........................


Dee Report 31 May 2011 20:30

Just discovered Limehouse is right on the Thames which would make Mary's dad being a boat builder plausible.


Dee Report 31 May 2011 20:33

Sorry getting confused, that Benjamin is the bootmaker. So Limehouse being beside the Thames is useless.


Dee Report 31 May 2011 20:54

Bit of family input here. Boot, Boat, not a million miles apart, different accent perhaps or a registrar who was slightly deaf!! . A mistake in what they thought she said. Perhaps they thought she said boat maker rather than bootmaker and changed it to boat builder. Am I grasping at straws?


Nickydownsouth Report 31 May 2011 21:08

Thats whay I thought Dee.....

That she had said Boot maker and was heard as boat maker...hence boat builder....

Not grasping at straws at all......



ChristinaS Report 31 May 2011 21:20

Particularly so if the registrar was from the north east of England .... maybe

Mary Sophia Tubb was born in a workhouse. Does this imply that her mother was no longer living with the father?


Dee Report 31 May 2011 22:10

In the 1881 census John William (if it's the same one) was living with his mum, although the census says he was married there is no wife listed.