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Percival Hunter Bonnard further request

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Maddie

Maddie Report 20 Aug 2011 18:21

Percival was born 1884 in Camberwell
I have found him between 1915 and 1936 coming in out of the counrty from South Africa.
I cannot find a death for him in England.
Does anyone know where i could look for his death in South Africa
thank you
Maddie

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Aug 2011 19:55

Have you seen his Army papers , he enlsted in 1915 . In 1919 he claimed passge money from Rhodesia so seems to have lived there more than England.

He also asked to be repatriated back to Southern Rhodesia

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Aug 2011 20:09

1911 census

Person: BONNARD, Percival Hunter
Address: Westward Ho Hotel Westcliff
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MACEWAN, Peter Boarder Married M 54 1857 Chemical Industry Editor Dundie VIEW
MACEWAN, Eufhemia Boarder Married
29 years F 51 1860 Edinburgh VIEW
CONDUIT, Adelaide Boarder Married F 80 1831 Hampshire Winchester VIEW
MYER, Montagne Alex Boarder Married M 30 1881 Manufactures Agent Soft Goods Hampshire Southhampton VIEW
MYER, Beryl Lucile Alex Boarder F 10 1901 London VIEW
MYER, Ronald Frances Sidney Alex Boarder M 5 1906 London VIEW
DOLSON, Louisa Maud Ratcliff Boarder Spinster F 35 1876 Nursemaid London VIEW
JACOBS, Frances Boarder Widow F 53 1858 Lancashire Manchester VIEW
BASIL, Frederick James Boarder Married M 54 1857 Financial Editor Lodnon Islington VIEW
BASIL, Constance Eleanor Boarder Married
30 years F 51 1860 London Hackney VIEW
BASIL, Florence Eleanor Boarder Spinster F 29 1882 London Hackney VIEW
BASIL, Ernest Wilfred Boarder Single M 23 1888 Insurance Agent London Hackney VIEW
BASIL, Ethel Eliza Boarder Single F 17 1894 London Hackney VIEW
KING, Alice Boarder Single F 43 1868 Profesional Nurse London Stepney VIEW
ATWATER, Walter Jones Boarder Married M 50 1861 Solicitor Kent Faversham VIEW
ATWATER, Lucy Alexander Boarder Married
22 years F 47 1864 Kent Faversham VIEW
ATWATER, Donal Boarder Single M 18 1893 Law Student Essex Forest Gate VIEW
GRYSIE, Howard Boarder Single M 27 1884 Chartered Accountant Lonon Clapton VIEW
WALEIS, Viola Loscombe Boarder Single F 19 1892 London Hampstead Heath VIEW
WALEIS, Alice Loscombe Boarder Widow F 50 1861 Ireland Dublin VIEW
JAMES, Margaret Florence Boarder Single F 33 1878 Proprietor Of Boarding Establishment Worcestershire Sedgeberrow VIEW
HARRISON, Richard Boarder Single M 31 1880 Lient R N R 2nd Officer S S Malwa Yorkshir Norton VIEW
SANDERS, Thomas Richard Boarder Married M 59 1852 Lancashire Liverpool VIEW
CHAPMAN, Emily Ethel Boarder Married F 29 1882 Profesional Nurse Bedfordshire Luton VIEW
HILLMEN, Carrie Boarder Single F 29 1882 Warwickshire Birmingham VIEW
GRANT, George Edmund Boarder Married M 56 1855 Carfet Warehouse Man London Islington VIEW
GRANT, Martha Boarder Married
19 years F 41 1870 Staffordshire Rowley Regis VIEW
GRANT, Margery Boarder F 11 1900 London Stoke Newington VIEW
GRANT, Patricia Boarder F 10 1901 London Stoke Newington VIEW
GRANT, Sybil Boarder F 5 1906 Middlesex Winchmore Hill VIEW
MARKS, Lilian Boarder Single F 27 1884 Childrens Nurse Essex Walthams Cow VIEW
LAMBERT, William Boarder Single M 24 1887 Surveyor Surrey Clapham VIEW
BAKER, Henry Richard Boarder Married M 56 1855 Accountant London St George Masave E VIEW
BAKER, Louisa Maria Boarder Married F 51 1860 Middlesex Tottenham VIEW
BAKER, Clande Harry Boarder Single M 20 1891 Insurance Clerk Middlesex Willesden Green VIEW
BONNARD, Gusteve Richard Boarder Married
9 years M 51 1860 Financies City of London >>>>>>>
BONNARD, Florence Boarder Married F 45 1866 Surrey Brixton >>>>>>>>>>
BONNARD, Percival Hunter Boarder Single M 26 1885 London New Cross >>>>>>>>>
BONNARD, Alice Maud Mary Boarder Single F 22 1889 London Peckham >>>>>>
HAMILTON, Roy Vansittant Boarder Single M 18 1893 Stock Jobbers Clerk Surrey Clapham VIEW
HARL, Rose Boarder Single F 27 1884 Ladys Maid Kingston Thames VIEW
HARVEY, M Boarder Widow F 67 1844 Suffragotle London Kensington VIEW
WARKER, Annie Boarder Single F 40 1871 Ladys Maid Surrey Weybourne VIEW
FAINE, Lilian Augusta Muriel Boarder Widow F 42 1869 Norfolk Tylesham VIEW
PACKHAM, Reginald Boarder Single M 30 1881 Insurance Clerk Exeter St Thomas VIEW
CROSS, Harry Edmund Boarder Married M 35 1876 Stock Jobber Cambridge Cambs VIEW
CROSS, Elizabeth Boarder Married
10 years F 34 1877 London Hackney VIEW
HOCKER, William Boarder Married
3 years M 67 1844 Retired Bank Clerk Devon Halliwell VIEW
HOCKER, Louisa Proprietors Married
3 years F 51 1860 Hotel Proprietor Dorchester Dorsetshire VIEW
WARDS, Mary Manageress Married F 32 1879 Manageress Private Yorkshire Sheffield VIEW
CLEAVER, Jessie Olivia Servant Single F 49 1862 Housekeeper Scotland Jedburgh VIEW
STONE, Margaret Servant Single F 25 1886 Assistant Housekeeper London VIEW
SPICER, Florrie Servant Single F 21 1890 Chambermaid London VIEW
MAY, Jessie Servant Single F 22 1889 Chambermaid London VIEW
MAY, Georgina Servant Single F 21 1890 Staff Maid London VIEW
STREETER, Edith Emily Servant Single F 21 1890 Stileroom Maid Essex Rochford VIEW
BAKER, Amy Servant Single F 30 1881 Chambermaid Kent Rochester VIEW
GREEN, Kathleen Servant Single F 33 1878 Chambermaid Ireland Co Antrian VIEW
BEER, Albert Augustus Servant Single M 26 1885 Second Cook Hants Portsmouth VIEW
LEONARD, Alfred Servant Single M 45 1866 Scullery Man Essex Dunmow VIEW
VIZONATHY, Bila Servant Single M 38 1873 Head Waiter Hungary Bechalez VIEW
REINHOLD, Max Servant Single M 20 1891 Waiter Saxony Beiersdorf VIEW
TOTSCHE, Agoston Servant Single M 20 1891 Waiter Hungary Szaladka VIEW
MOSEN, Karl Servant Single M 23 1888 Waiter Silescia Jarjesdry VIEW
SOLAR, Antony Servant Single M 19 1892 Pantry Man Switzerland Laas VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
10127 Reference:
RG14PN10127 RG78PN533A RD195 SD2 ED15 SN80

Registration District:
Rochford Sub District:
Prittlewell Enumeration District:
15 Parish:
Prittlewell

Address:
Westward Ho Hotel Westcliff County:
Essex

He names his father as Gustave on his WW1 enlistment papers

Parents state 3 children born 1 died

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 20 Aug 2011 20:45

I found him...via the site posted by Colin
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=AFRICA

He's in the Zimbabwe death registers in the section of surnames BH - BY and he is on image 13 of 42.
No idea of what the numbers mean by his name, but he is shown as
BONNARD Percival Hunten
D.R..63 / 108 7800

No other BONNARDs listed

Gwyn

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Aug 2011 22:05

Good find Gwyn :-D

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Aug 2011 09:37

thank you all so very much
I will look at the links
maddie

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 21 Aug 2011 10:46

Maddie,

You should be able to find an image of his death notice, which shows quite alot of information, but I am struggling to find the correct image, ( the numbers should help, but don't seem to :-( )

I hope you have more success than me.

Gwyn

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Aug 2011 11:05

Hi Gwyn
i could only find a page with reference numbers on
I don't even know what year it was
thanks anyway
Maddie

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 21 Aug 2011 11:31

Maddie

That is the death index.
Using the numbers written there one should be able to go to the death registers in another nearby section

My husband has found alot for his family there recently using this system and says 63 refers to the volume number.
I think it's going to be trial and error to find him there though.

Gwyn

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Aug 2011 12:21

Hi Gwyn
I must be stupid
i keepending back at the same place
i click on death register but same image comes up
where is the other section
sorry to bother you
maddie

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Aug 2011 12:26

right now found the register
but if vol 63 pg 108 it is a female

maddie

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 21 Aug 2011 12:41

No problem.
I'll guide you through to where he should be,.... but I still haven't found what you need.

In theory we should be able to go to Volume 63 then go to certificate entry 108.
This is not necessarily the same as the image number. ,but once you get an image of a record on screen you can see a handwritten number on the top of the paper ( towards right hand side usually )
That is the number given in the death INDEX.

I tried this with a randomly picked name and then checked his number in the index and it worked just fine, ...but doesn't seem to work for Percival.

Anyway.......
Follow Colin's link to take you to Familysearch pages then click on Zimbabwe Death Registers and Death Index (second from bottom link)
On new page click on browse images.
Next page click on Death Registers ( last link on list)

New page will offer groups of years, so we should be able to find him in
1942 which is for Volume 63

but I'm struggling and can't see him.

Please tell me if you find him !

Gwyn

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Aug 2011 12:45

thanks colin
how did you sus it was page 134
found it
so he died in Jo-berg
not Rhodesia
interesting man
maddie

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 21 Aug 2011 12:57

AT LAST !

Good job Colin is here to guide us.... Thanks.

Not nearly so much on this registration as I've seen on others, but at least you've got him.
I'll amend the guide before others use it to go on their own wild-goose chase.

Gwyn

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Aug 2011 12:59

i know shame really
Would love to know what he did in Rhodesia
he was a secretary for the British South African Company 1915 to about 1930
backwards and forwards to England and fought in 1stworld war
got all his army history though
Have googled it but most of it is military
thanks for all your help

maddie

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Aug 2011 19:40

good idea Gwn
if you have never seen those records before they are difficult compared to the rest of family search
once again thanks for everybodies help

just for interest his brother died aboard the Hip Sang in 1923 in China
maddie

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 21 Aug 2011 19:47

Bit of a clue maybe Maddie...have a google on below name think this was something to do with gold.

The Times, Friday 19th November 1937

Witwatersrand Nigel Limited.
During this year Messrs. P H Bonnard joined the board of directors.

Chris :)

Maddie

Maddie Report 22 Aug 2011 10:18

thanks Chris
I will do, first time family may have made The Times
Maddie

Maddie

Maddie Report 22 Aug 2011 10:50

hi Chris
sorry can't find what you have
what combination did you use
regards
Maddie

Maddie

Maddie Report 22 Aug 2011 16:28

Hi all
please can i ask for your advice again,
assuming Pericval married Dorothy naomi Wyatt just before his death in 1942 :
I have found on the incoming passenger list 2/11/1946 and out going list 1947 the following
Dorothy naomi Bonnard born 1906 resident South Africa
Richard Hunter Bonnard born 1939
John Anthony Bonnard born 1941

do you think these are his decendants or a coincidence and where do you think they could fit in
forgive me as i am not a very good at googling unless it is simple, is there anywhere i can find south african bmd

thank you
maddie