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WILLIAM BARRY FITZGERALD, Dublin

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Feb 2021 21:04

The answer is on your other thread:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1391037

Fitzgerald was also her maiden name.

And in fact, the answer is on this thread too -
see Liam's post on 19 Nov 2011 at 01:22

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 20 Feb 2021 17:55

Aha!

So my FAF was her parents' YOUNGEST daughter. Very helpful.

I knew that they'd married in India - I found the record at the British Library some years ago now.

... Bayley, Esq., Madras Army, tnird son of Colonel Bayley, 20th N.I„ Frances Adelaide, youngest daughter of the late William Barry Fitzgerald, of Dublin, Esq. On Tuesday, the 12th May, at St. Augustine's Catholic Church, Port Elizabeth, Algoa Bay, Cape of ...

Can anyone perhaps see the death record for WBF's wife? It may lead to her maiden name ...........

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 20 Feb 2021 17:33

I have received this kind and helpful answer to my email searching for a grave and/or headstone and a possible MI which could give some clues:-

procath
Sat 06/02/2021 13:41
Dear Nicola



We do not have a graveyard here at St. Mary’s Pro-Cathedral.



We do have a Crypt and I have checked the register and cannot find a William Barry Fitzgerald having been interred in the vaults.



I had a look at Irish Genealogy and the COI after Dublin could stand for Church of Ireland



If I can be of any further assistance please let me know.



Kind regards



Mary Irwin

Administrative Secretary

Where would I look for her suggestion of COI records, please?

Thank you.

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 29 Nov 2011 19:51

Have managed to get into GR again this evening, but I am VERY overworked and cannot see a slot to get back to this rather convoluted thread until the weekend.

Please forgive and don't think me rude if you all are active on my behalf!! :-) <3

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 29 Nov 2011 00:02

Nicola
GR site has been shocking tonite...Think their system has given up the ghost.
It's. Enough to make a Saint swear

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 28 Nov 2011 23:37

GR very slow this evening. Will have to try to get back to this again in a day or two.

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 28 Nov 2011 22:49

Oh bother, I started to write a reply and GR ate it.

Will try again in a minute.

Harrumph. :-D

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Nov 2011 16:48

Liam....I seem to have lost the plot somewhere along this thread...what appeared at first to be straightforward has more twists and turns....!!

Will check out WW...Dame St.on early Directories and see what it produces...

Liam

Liam Report 28 Nov 2011 13:09


Erin, I think you could be right, in that we may be missing a birth for a WBF in around the C1820/30s

possible connections,
Deaths,
Robert Barry Fitzgerald
Burial Place Calcutta , 26th Nov 1838 aged 43. birth 1795
Occ- Atty at Law

William Wildridge
Burial 19 Dec 1836 aged 59,
Dame St, Dublin

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Nov 2011 10:09

Liam...I am beginning to wonder the same thing....

" My great great grandfather was a QC Dublin..WBF died 1845... He was father of Flo.Ad.Fitzgerald who married Henry GD Bayley (India )...who were my great great grandparents"

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1286940
Nicola is looking for info.re great great grandparents 1890ish....

Nicola....Can you show a brief "tree" to clarify which generation WBFitzgerald (Died 1845) belongs to.....We may have lost one along the way....

I have checked the Thoms diectory and find neither a William Wildridge (at the time in question the name may have been listed as Wilroge) or a WBF in Dublin "City"...I have also checked out the Dublin "City" Voters Reg 1820 and neither are listed...

Liam

Liam Report 28 Nov 2011 02:51

More Marriages,
Emily Barry Fitzgerald + Robert Lovet Cuthbert = 28th apr 1858, St Peter Dublin.
Brides father- William Barry Fitzgerald
Grooms Father- William Pierce Cuthbert.

Wellington Barry Fitzgerald + Harriet Unedale Leslie= 19th Jan 1854, Calcutta
Parents= William Barry Fitzgerald + Robert Leslie.

Elizabeth Southwell + Grant Thomas Bowen ,
Bride born 1832 age 28 [1860] no age for groom
St Michaels , Barbados
Parents= William Barry Fitzgerald + Israel Bowen

So are we dealing with 2 different WBF's ?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 27 Nov 2011 22:33

Nicola....
You have identified that WBF was a QC...If you check back through the thread you will see Liam gave you WBF's marriage....

If you have access to "The Times"...check out obits.for the time of WBFs Death..

as I said earlier there are mant Fitzgerald Burials in Mount Jerome Cem. also a family Vault...you could contact the Cem.and find out if he is in it...(you would be better trying to locate his obit first)

Does this thread relate in any way to your Ward of Chancery thread...?

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 27 Nov 2011 20:06

Apologies to one and all but AT LAST I have been able to dig out the information about our man!!

From The Times of India notices for 1863, the following marriage is announced:
Henry Elliott Dashwood Bayley to Fanny Adelaide Fitzgerald [these are my Great Great Grandparents - and I'm lucky enough to have very good photographs of both of them!] on 7th April 1863 at Fort St George Madras . . . . "youngest daughter of the late William Barry Fitzgerald esq QC Dublin."

As I wrote above, the Indian Marriage Record [which I also have from the British Library] does not give the profession or whether dead/alive for bride's or groom's father's; this is always a tricky area, since many of this branch of my family were out in India during the Raj and inevitably many marriages took place out there. But we do have good family records which have been kept over the years, so I usually know that I am pointing in the right direction.

So, our WBF was indeed a QC and in Dublin.

Please, where do I go from here? I want to find out who he married, the other children they had and also where he might be buried so that I can find his headstone.

Anyone up for this, please? All help gratefully received.

Thank you. :-)

Liam

Liam Report 27 Nov 2011 02:00


Nicola,
I'm not sure that the Thoms will have the information your looking for,however there is the Treble Almanack, which includes the Petigrew and Oulton Directory for Dublin and Wilson Directory from 1751- 1837 also for Dublin

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Nov 2011 21:29

Nicola
Your thread (1st posting) says.."He was a QC in Dublin".
Thoms is like Kelly,s but will only give you the same info.eg St.address.
I cannot find a Wm B listed.
What does it have as his occ.on this daughters MC.

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 26 Nov 2011 21:17

Oh, I thought that Thom's was like a Kelly's; i.e., more of a street directory.

I don't think it's me who has made reference to him being a QC? Kings Inn only confirmed that they had him in their records of Admission Papers, see above.

Thank you.

Nicola


Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Nov 2011 20:59

Nichola
You said Wm.B was a QC...did he go on to be called to the Bar at a later date...?
Thoms will only show those who were practising Law....
Where did you find the info.re QC.

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 26 Nov 2011 20:38

Is it possible for me to change the heading on this thread to "Thom's Directory, Dublin"?

That's really where this thread is heading now and I feel that it would be more accurate for all you enthusiastic GR's!

Thank you.

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 25 Nov 2011 22:58

NB: I have been guided by a fellow GR to add the below update on to the end of this thread and not to open a fresh one. So here goes:-

THOM'S DIRECTORY:

I have been directed to Thom's Directory by Kings Inn, Dublin who have revealed that my WBF did indeed appear in their Admission Papers in Trinity Term 1811.

This gives us an approximate dob for him of c.1791.

My ancestor, WILLIAM BARRY FITZGERALD was a solicitor in Dublin of Blessington Street and died there in 1845 [I have found his burial record].

However, I cannot find either his birth record or more particularly any details of his practice in Dublin as a solicitor and Kings Inn don't have any details other than that he was apprenticed to a William Wildridge.

I have googled Thom's but they just want to sell me the CD!!

Can sks help me out on this one, please? I'm afraid that I know very little about Ireland/Dublin and am struggling.

All help gratefully received.

Many thanks.

Nicola

Liam

Liam Report 21 Nov 2011 12:10


1862 Street Index Dublin.

28 Stafford Street.

Fitzgerald Charles Snr,Solicitor to South Dublin Union,and Dundrum
Fitzgerald Charles Jnr, Solicitor and 2 St Johns Terrace, Clontarff
Cane Matthew, Solicitor and 4 St Johns Terrace, Clontarff.

* The Union is likely to be the workhouse*
Edit.
1843/44 " no WBF on register "

Attorney's Practicing in City of Dublin Record Court.
Charles Fitzgerald, 25 Stafford Street
Geo Fitzgerald, 30 North Anne Street
John Fitzgerald, 33 Malboro Street