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Catherine and Henry Wilson from Co Down N.Ireland

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Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Mar 2012 12:36

Im trying to trace any relatives of my maternal grandmother who was born Margaret Ann Wilson in Shadforth Village Co Durham in 1880. Her parents were Henry Wilson born in Ballbaley N Ireland in 1846 and Catherine Morrison born in Grey Abbey N Ireland in 1845. I have found them on the 1881 English census but then there is no record of them again!! I think they went back to N Ireland before the 1891 English census and rumour has it that Catherine Wilson was badly burned in a house fire and died. Margaret (known as Maggie) was still a child and was brought up by her Aunt and Uncle. I don't know if it was the Wilson side of the family or the Morrisons. However she left home at 17yrs old and married James Kerr in Newtownards in 1898. They moved to Ayrshire, Scotland.

Catherine

Catherine Report 28 Mar 2012 13:13

Any idea if she had any siblings?
Where in Ireland did they go back to?
Did Margaret stay in England with her Aunty and Uncle?
Do you have any other info that may help?
Where were the family in 1881 census, posting it may help?
Thanks!

Catherine

Catherine Report 28 Mar 2012 13:18


Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 about Margaret Ann Wilson

Name:Margaret Ann Wilson
Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1898
Registration district:Newtownards
Volume:1
Page:941 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number:101259
Spouse: James Kerr Jan-Feb-Mar 1898 Newtownards

...........so married in Ireland!

Gins

Gins Report 28 Mar 2012 13:44

Residents of a house 8 in Front Shuttlefield Street (Newtownards Urban, Down)

1911 Census

Kerr James 34 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Church Portavogie, Co Down Factory Labourer Read and write - Married - - - -
Kerr Maggie 30 Female Wife Presbyterian Church England, Co Durham - Read and write - Married - 13 6 5
Kerr William Thomas 7 Male Son Presbyterian Co Down, Greyabbey Scholar Cannot read - Single - - - -
Kerr Kathleen 2 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Down, Newtownards - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Kerr Jane Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Down, Newtownards - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Kerr Agnes 18 Female Niece Church of Ireland

safc

safc Report 28 Mar 2012 13:45

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Name: James Morrison Wilson
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 24 Jun 1878
Birthplace: Grey Abbey, Down, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Henry Wilson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Catherine Morrison Wilson
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00745-8
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
Source Film Number: 256008
Reference Number: v 1-2 p 838

Maura

Maura Report 28 Mar 2012 13:49

1901 Scotland Census
about Maggie A Kerr Name: Maggie A Kerr
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James Kerr
Gender: Female
Where born: England
Registration number: 615
Registration district: Stevenston
Civil parish: Stevenston
Town: Stevenston
County: Ayrshire
Address: No 20
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 183
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1901_237
Household Members: Name Age
James Kerr 24
Maggie A Kerr 20
George Kerr 1 Month
Mary Kerr 57
Samuel Brown 25
Sarah J Brown 23
Annie Brown 3


Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Mar 2012 15:32

Wow that was quick, Im Impressed!! I dont think Maggie Ann Wilson had any siblings as I think Catherine Wilson died in Co Down in Dec 1891. I dont know what happened to Henry Wilson either, all I know for sure is that he came to England from N.ireland to get a job. That job was a colliery screenman in Co Durham, they lived in Shadforth Village, Margaret Ann (Maggie) was
born there in 1880. They are on the 1881 census, but thereafter not a trace! I think Henry may have died and Catherine took the baby back to ?Grey Abbey Co Down. This is where I think Catherine Wilson died...I have an entry detail from the record type ..Wills calendars, the date of death being 17th Dec 1891 at St Heliers, Strandtown, Co Down. Family rumour has it that her dress caught on fire when she stood on a stool to reach something from the mantel shelf!! I dont know if this is my Gt Grandmother or not, as there were lots of Catherine Wilson's, who died around that time and the death cert doesnt tell me much. Maggie Ann was brought up by an aunt and uncle in Co Down but Im not sure if it was the Wilsons or Morrisons.

Maura

Maura Report 28 Mar 2012 15:48

The Catherine Wilson who died Dec 1891 was a spinster, her full will on here

Title : Date of Death : 17 December 1891
Surname : Wilson Date of Grant : 5 February 1892
Forename : Catherine Reseal Date :
Registry : Belfast Effects : Effects £943
Image

Full Abstract :
The Will of Catherine Wilson late of St. Helier's Strandtown County Down Spinster who died 17 December 1891 at same place was proved at Belfast by Mary Anne Wilson of St. Heller's Strandtown Spinster the Surviving Executor



http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/willsSearchResultsDetails.aspx

Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Mar 2012 15:55

Ok well that rules that out then...lol Oh well back to the drawing board again!!!

Maura

Maura Report 28 Mar 2012 16:04

I wouldn't rule out the birth that safc found, he could of died before 1881

Maura

Maura Report 28 Mar 2012 16:12

According to Margaret's marriage her witnesses where a Samuel & Minnie Mcknight. Minnie McKnight maiden name was Murphy, her father was a Alexander Murphy & her mother was a Mary Morrison. Now both Catherine & Mary Morrison father is a James. So more than likely this was the aunt she was lving with.



Census Years1901DownNewtownards UrbanChurch StreetResidents of a house
Residents of a house 40 in Church Street (Newtownards Urban, Down)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
McKnight Minnie 23 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Down Embroiderer Read and write - Married -
Murphy Isabella 16 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Down Hem Stitcher Read and write - Not Married -
Murphy Edith Catherine 12 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Down Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
McKnight Kathleen 2 Female Grand Daughter Church of Ireland Down - Cannot read - Not Married -
Murphy Alexander 54 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Down Farm Labourer Read and write - Married -
Murphy Mary 55 Female Wife Church of Ireland Down - Read and write

Maura

Maura Report 28 Mar 2012 16:15

Mary Morrison married Alexander Murphy 28th May 1874 in St Mark's C.O.I.
Newtownards

Catherine Morrison married Henry Wilson 4th March 1876 in the same church

Maura

Maura Report 28 Mar 2012 16:43

Inscription
Graveyard Name: Greyabbey Graveyard
Parish: Greyabbey
Town/Townland: Rosemount
County: Down
Surname: MORISON/MORRISON,MURPHY
Inscription: Erected by William Morison of Greyabbey in memory of his wife Mary Morrison who departed this life 19th January 1843 aged 55 years Also the remains of the aforesaid William Morison who was interred at Elizabethtown, US of America, who died the 4th Sept 1858 aged 72 years Also his son James Morrison who departed this life 5th February 1891 aged 75 years Also Mary MURPHY, daughter of the above James Morrison, born 11th June 1845, died 6th Dec 1921.
Other Information: [In a small railed enclosure]

Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Mar 2012 18:47

I have also found a wills calendars record of a Henry Wilson who died 9thJune 1902 of 162 Mill St, Newtonards, Co Down

Maura

Maura Report 28 Mar 2012 18:47

Inscription
Graveyard Name: Greyabbey Graveyard
Parish: Greyabbey
Town/Townland: Rosemount
County: Down
Surname: DAVIDSON, MORRISON, BABY
Inscription: James MORRISON Sacred to the memory of Robert Davidson of Greyabbey who died June 10th 1853 aged 73 years Also 2 of his children who died young Likewise his grandson Thomas John Davidson who died March the 3rd 1857 aged 4 years Also his wife Catharine Davidson alias BABY who died 22nd May 1860 aged 75 years Also his daughter Catherine Davidson, born 16th December 1825, died 22nd Oct 1888 Also his daughter Margaret Morrison who died 15th February 1897 aged 78 years.


Father James Morrison, Mother Margaret
James Morrison born 25th March 1860Greyabby
Robert daividson Morrison born 23rd April 1854 Greyabby

Maura

Maura Report 28 Mar 2012 18:56

That Henry Wilson was 81 when he died

Census Years1901DownNewtownards UrbanCastle StreetResidents of a house
Residents of a house 5 in Castle Street (Newtownards Urban, Down)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Wilson Henry 81 Male Father Presbyterian Co Down Retired Farmer Read and write - Widower -
Wilson William Henry 37 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Down Grocer Read and write - Married -
Boyd Mary 43 Female Servant Roman Catholic Co Down General Servant Domestic Read - Not Married -
Wilson Sarah Jane 32 Female Wife Presbyterian

Maura

Maura Report 28 Mar 2012 19:02

Made a mistake, the above Henry died 1902, the Henry Wilson 162 Mills st, died 1898, had 6 children , Henry, Hugh, Minnie, Elizabeth ,Jane & Ellen

Maura

Maura Report 28 Mar 2012 19:09


Date Of Marriage 04/04/1876 St Mark's C.O.I.
Henry Wilson
Address South Street
occupation labourer
age F/A
Father James Wilson a weaver
Catherine Morrison
Address Greyabbey
age F/A
Father James Morrison a weaver
Witnesses William Morrison & Amelia Davidson

Maura

Maura Report 28 Mar 2012 19:23

Census Years1901DownNewtownards UrbanSouth StreetResidents of a house
Residents of a house 23 in South Street (Newtownards Urban, Down)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Wilson Lizzie 45 Female Daughter Presbyterian Down Machinest Read and write - Widow -
Wilson Lizzie 14 Female Grand Daughter Presbyterian Down Machinest Read and write - Not Married -
Wilson William 16 Male Grand Son Presbyterian Down Carpenters Apprentice Read and write - Not Married -
Wilson John 18 Male Grand Son Presbyterian Down Drapers Apprentice Read and write - Not Married -
Larmour Eliza 80 Female Head of Family Presbyterian Down House Wife Read - Widow

Samuel Wilson married Elizabeth Larmouer 13th Feb 1875 Greenwell Street Presbyterian Church, Newtonards

Samuel father's a James

Maura

Maura Report 28 Mar 2012 20:03

There's a tree on ancestry that has your Morrison line, the name of the tree is Candy Penny