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Frances
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14 Oct 2012 17:42 |
I have found Hannah Charlesworth (Birth 1839 Southwell - FreeBMD) in the 1841 census at Southwell, Kneesall but I am having difficulty establishing her parents. Can anybody see the family at that time please?
Many thanks Frances
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brummiejan
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14 Oct 2012 17:48 |
Remember to put location - never heard of these places before!
1841 England Census
Name: Hannah Charlesworth Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Gender: Female Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Edwinstone Hundred: Bassetlaw (Hatfield Division) County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England
Registration district: Southwell Sub-registration district: Kneesal
William Charlesworth 40 William Charlesworth 12 Keziah Charlesworth 40 Mary Charlesworth 10 Ann Charlesworth 7 Hannah Charlesworth 2
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14 Oct 2012 17:49 |
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1841 England Census about Hannah Charlesworth Name: Hannah Charlesworth Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Gender: Female Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Edwinstone Hundred: Bassetlaw (Hatfield Division) County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Southwell Sub-registration district: Kneesal Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 850 Book: 5 Folio: 9 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age William Charlesworth 40 (Ag Lab) William Charlesworth 12 Keziah Charlesworth 40 Mary Charlesworth 10 Ann Charlesworth 7 Hannah Charlesworth 2
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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14 Oct 2012 17:50 |
This one?? Name: Hannah Charlesworth Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Gender: Female Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Edwinstone Hundred: Bassetlaw (Hatfield Division) County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
View image Registration district: Southwell Sub-registration district: Kneesal Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 850 Book: 5 Folio: 9 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age William Charlesworth 40 William Charlesworth 12 Keziah Charlesworth 40 Mary Charlesworth 10 Ann Charlesworth 7 Hannah Charlesworth 2
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 850; Book: 5; Civil Parish: Edwinstone; County: Nottinghamshire; Enumeration District: 21; Folio: 9; Page: 1; Line: 16; GSU roll: 438901.
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brummiejan
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14 Oct 2012 17:51 |
A word of caution, There are 2 Hannahs showing for Kneesal in 1851 - different parents.
1851 England Census Name: Hannah Charlesworth Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thos Charlesworth Mother's Name: Mary Charlesworth Gender: F (Female) Where born: Eakring, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Eakring County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Thos Charlesworth 40 Mary Charlesworth 43 Leah Charlesworth 15 James Charlesworth 12 Hannah Charlesworth 10 Stephen Charlesworth 7 Rachel Charlesworth 4 Mary Charlesworth 1 Richard Walker 66 John Blankley 73
1851 England Census Name: Hannah Charlesworth Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Charlesworth Mother's Name: Rosia Charlesworth Gender: F (Female) Where born: Ollerton, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Ollerton County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Southwell Sub-registration district: Kneesal
William Charlesworth 51 Rosia Charlesworth 53 Hannah Charlesworth 11
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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14 Oct 2012 17:55 |
1851 census
Name: Hannah Charlesworth Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Charlesworth Mother's Name: Rosia Charlesworth Gender: F (Female) Where born: Ollerton, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Ollerton County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image Registration district: Southwell Sub-registration district: Kneesal ED, institution, or vessel: 6a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 46 Piece: 2135 Folio: 122 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age William Charlesworth 51 Kezia Charlesworth 53 Hannah Charlesworth 11 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2135; Folio: 122; Page: 11; GSU roll: 87765.
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Frances
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14 Oct 2012 17:58 |
Thank you brummiejan and Prickly Holly. William and Keziah are great. There is a grandaughter Keziah born 1876ish but I am syill perplexed by all the changes made by GenedReunited and IGI - sleuthing ancestors used to be fun but now it is just hardwork for this old wrinkly!
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16 Oct 2012 10:15 |
Good Morning all and thank you for finding the Charlesworth family in 1841. I have been trying to find the births of the parents, William and Keziah (Cassia some places) with no success so far. Is there any sign of them in 1851 please, perhaps with a 'modified surname', as I am failing to see them in my searching.
Many thanks, Frances
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brummiejan
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16 Oct 2012 12:47 |
The above provided by Shirley is 1851, but here is Kezia:
1851 England Census
Name: Rosia Charlesworth [Kezia Charlesworth] [Kezia Charlesworth] Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Charlesworth Gender: F (Female) Where born: Ollerton, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Ollerton County/Island: Nottinghamshire Registration district: Southwell Sub-registration district: Kneesal
William Charlesworth 51 Rosia Charlesworth 53 Hannah Charlesworth 11
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brummiejan
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16 Oct 2012 12:50 |
I am guessing this is the marriage?
groom's name: William Charlesworth bride's name: Cassiah Presgraves
marriage date: 13 Dec 1821 marriage place: Ollerton,Nottingham,England
indexing project (batch) number: M01099-2 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 504065, 504527 reference number:
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brummiejan
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16 Oct 2012 12:51 |
If so, though age somewhat out. Not sure what the death means, is this correct or submitted??:
name: Cassiah Presgraves gender: Female baptism/christening date: 03 Nov 1793 baptism/christening place: OLLERTON,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND birth date: 27 Sep 1793 death date: 25 Sep 1794
father's name: Edward Presgraves mother's name: Easter indexing project (batch) number: P01099-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 0095047, 0928949 reference number:
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Frances
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16 Oct 2012 13:20 |
Hi brummiejan now you have really upset the pigeons with your cat! but I suppose it is possible that the parents replaced the dead baby with another child of the same name - not an uncommon practice at that time. The Keziah in 1851 suggests a birth of c.1798. Are there any other places apart from IGI that detail births before 1837?
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PatinCyprus
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16 Oct 2012 13:40 |
Took an interest in this as I lived in a village very close to Ollerton and Kneesall.
Have found this, as you summised a second child.
parents: Edward Presgraves,? Easter
name: Cissiah Presgraves
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 04 Jun 1797
baptism/christening place: OLLERTON,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND
birth date: 09 May 1797
father's name: Edward Presgraves
mother's name: Easter
indexing project (batch) number: P01099-1
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Frances
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16 Oct 2012 13:58 |
Thanks PatinCyprus that is great. All I need now is similar info on William Charlesworth. My neighbour will be well impressed!
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PatinCyprus
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16 Oct 2012 14:02 |
Easter's birth?
parents: Thomas Jackson,? Martha
name: Easter Jackson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 21 Apr 1775
baptism/christening place: TUXFORD, NOTTINGHAM, ENGLAND
father's name: Thomas Jackson
mother's name: Martha
indexing project (batch) number: C05409-2 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 0504052 IT 2
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PatinCyprus
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16 Oct 2012 14:18 |
Could be William, several siblings.
parents: John Charlesworth,? Sarah Charlesworth
name: William Charlesworth
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 11 May 1800
baptism/christening place: St. Mary's, Portsea, Hampshire, England
father's name: John Charlesworth
mother's name: Sarah Charlesworth
indexing project (batch) number: C02260- system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1596292
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Frances
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16 Oct 2012 14:23 |
Thanks Pat, just need William's place of birth from the 1851 census to confirm that your birth is correct - unfortunately the surname Charlesworth is more common than Presgraves!
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PatinCyprus
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16 Oct 2012 14:24 |
Siblings and Christening dates.
Ann 29th May 1803
George 14th June 1807
Sarah 04 th November 1810
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16 Oct 2012 14:30 |
William Charlesworth
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 71
relationship to head of household: Self
birthplace: Portsmouth, Hampshire
record type: Household
registration district: Southwell
sub-district: Kneesal
event parish: Ollerton county: Nottinghamshire
According to Wikipedia Portsea is an area of Portsmouth.
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brummiejan
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16 Oct 2012 14:32 |
1861 England Census
Name: William Charlesworth Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Horiah Charlesworth Gender: Male Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Ollerton County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Registration district: Southwell Sub-registration district: Kneesal ED, institution, or vessel: 2
William Charlesworth 60 Horiah Charlesworth 62 Mary Dring 66
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