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I wonder if anybody can help! I have been trying to locate the parents of Elizabeth M Cryan. She married my great grandfather George Hardman in 1906 and died in 1947. I have traced her in the 1911 Census and when she married but nothing previously. When she died she was said to be 63. Can anyone shed some light plesase!!

Oh hello - you haven't got a name! Welcome to the boards.

Is it possible she might have been previously married?

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Name: Elizabeth Mary Hardman
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Birthplace: Brandon C, Durham
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Durham
Sub-District: Brandon
Parish: Brandon And Byshottles
County: Durham

the marriage in Durham for info
Marriages Sep 1906 (>99%)

CRYAN Elizabeth Mary Durham 10a 749
HARDMAN George Durham 10a 749

do you have the marriage certificate, it should give father's name

Posting 1911 for reference:

HARDMAN, George Head Married M 27 1884 Stoneman Colliery Old Ash Durham
HARDMAN, Elizabeth Mary Wife Married5 years F 25 1886 Brandon C Durham
HARDMAN, George Henry Son M 3 1908 Langley Moor C Durham
HARDMAN, Florance May Daughter F 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 Brandon C Durham

RG number: RG14 Piece: 29935
Reference: RG14PN29935 RG78PN1732 RD551 SD1 ED13 SN252
Registration District: Durham
Sub District: Brandon
Enumeration District: 13
Parish: Brandon and Byshottles

Address: 47 Park St Brandon Colly Durham County: Durham

For info.......

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: HARDMAN, Elizabeth Mary
Address: 47 Park St Brandon Colly Durham

HARDMAN, George Head Married M 27 1884 Stoneman Colliery Old Ash Durham VIEW
HARDMAN, Elizabeth Mary Wife Married5 years F 25 1886 Brandon C Durham VIEW
HARDMAN, George Henry Son M 3 1908 Langley Moor C Durham VIEW
HARDMAN, Florance May Daughter F 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 Brandon C Durham VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 29935
Reference: RG14PN29935 RG78PN1732 RD551 SD1 ED13 SN252
Registration District: Durham
Sub District: Brandon
Enumeration District: 13
Parish: Brandon and Byshottles
Address: 47 Park St Brandon Colly Durham
County: Durham
(2 children born and living)

Wow that was quick. Thank's for this. As you can see I new to this messaging and unsure as to how to get a profile name, have tried but it doesn't seem to be working. Unfortunately I have not got the Marriage Certificate. I only traced her through the 1911 cenus as the florence hardman was my grandmother who died before I was born!!

Is Cryan an Irish surname

go into account at the top of the page , fill in the details with a board name, click and save.

If you go to account and personal details there's a box for you to enter a message board name - is that where you tried? Might be a glitch.

I think you really need to get a copy of the marriage certificate ....

might be best in this instance to purchase the marriage certificate.
At least then it will say if she was married before and you will get her fathers name too.
It will be easier to trace back from that. Like Glitter baby, I think the surname is of Irish origin.

regards
Jan

Do you know if they had any children after 1911? We can check the mother's maiden name on any possible birth entries.

this is a possible child - note spelling CRAYAN

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)

Hardman Hannah J Crayan Durham 10a 670

Possible birth in 1917 but MMN is Crayan

Thanks for the info. I have tried sbout ten times to put in a message board name and nothing!! I think you are all right in that it might be easier to get a marriage certificate and see the father's name. There was only two children George and then Florence.

Thanks for all your help.

Regards

Di :-)

nothing comes up on durham records online
however these do

note name CRINES and O'RYAN

1871 Census Durham Margaret J. O'Ryan [Cryan] abt 1865 1871 Willington
Cemetery Registers Sunderland Margaret Mary Cryan abt 1894 1895 43 Potts Street
Marriages Hartlepool Mary Jane Cryan abt 1867 1890 36 Hermit St., Hartlepool

Baptisms Easington Michael Cryan [Crines] 1876 Murton

1871 Census Durham Patrick O'Ryan [Cryan] abt 1870 1871 Willington

Cemetery Registers Sunderland Peter Cryan abt 1876 1876 32 Hamilton Street

1871 Census Durham Rose E. O'Ryan [Cryan] abt 1867 1871 Willington

1891
I wonder if this is her...note marriage of margaret jane cryon to John Moore in 1886..so mother may have remarried

Name: Elizabeth M Moore
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Moore
Mother's Name: Margaret J Moore
Gender: Female
Where born: Brandon, Durham, England

Civil parish: Brandon
Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4097
Folio: 17
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
John Moore 26
Margaret J Moore 27
Elizabeth M Moore 5
Christena Moore 4
Florence Moore 10/12


Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)

CRYON Margaret Jane Durham 10a 451
MOORE John Durham 10a 451

note from above previous post

1871 Census Durham Margaret J. O'Ryan [Cryan] abt 1865 1871 Willington

1871
Name: Margaret J Cryan
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Patrick Cryan
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Cryan
Gender: Female
Where born: Wellington, Durham, England
Civil parish: Willington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Household schedule number: 122
Piece: 4965
Folio: 131
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick Cryan 49
Elizabeth Cryan 40
Elizabeth Cryan 18
Bridget Cryan 15
Mary Ann Cryan 13
Margaret J Cryan 6
Rose E Cryan 4
Patrick Crisan 1
John Mc Geeny 35
James McDonald 36
Patrick Lambe 34
Peter Lambe 27

A great find Vicci!


1901 England Census
about Christiana Moore
Name: Christiana Moore
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: John Moore
Mother's Name: Margt Jane Moore
Gender: Female
Where born: Langley Moor, Durham, England

Civil parish: Brandon and Byshottles
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 179
Piece: 4677
Folio: 172
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
John Moore 69
John Moore 33 (Son)
Margt Jane Moore 34 (Daughter in Law)
Christiana Moore 14