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Elizabeth Mary Cryan born 1884 Durham

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Apr 2013 20:50

Hi Strebor

I think you have that muddled............it is Margaret Jane (Daughter of Elizabeth Jane) that has an illegitimate Daughter Elizabeth Mary.

Strebor

Strebor Report 5 Apr 2013 14:23

Can't thank all of you enough for this massive information. Firstly in respect of getting a profile name. I needed to log off and then back on and it works!!!! Secondly for all the hard work to find the name Cryan. I think you might be right in respect of Elizabeth Jane having an illegitimate child called Elizabeth Mary and it certainly throws some light on it. I will definitely chase this up and thanks once again for all your help.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Apr 2013 12:08

This is possibly Margaret Jane mistranscribed in the 1881 census........

1881 England Census
about Margaret Crone
Name: Margaret Crone
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Willington, Durham, England

Civil parish: Willington
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: 40 High Street Masons Arms
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: General Servant

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4959
Folio: 102
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
William Mowbray 30
Isabella Mowbray 26
Lilley Mowbray 1
Margaret Crone 17 (General Servant)




PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Apr 2013 11:44

Looking back then.........it would seem that Margaret Jane's marriage to John Moore was her first marriage and that Elizabeth Mary Cryan is her illegitimate daughter.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Apr 2013 10:56

1861 England Census
about Bridget Crine
Name: Bridget Crine
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Patrick Crine
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Crine
Gender: Female
Where born: Willington, Durham, England

Civil parish: Willington
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 21h and 21a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 261
Piece: 3739
Folio: 103
Page Number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Crine 34 (Ireland) Labourer
Elizabeth Crine 29 (Ireland)
Elizabeth Crine 8 (Huddersfield Yorkshire)
Bridget Crine 5 (Willington Durham)
Mary Ann Crine 3 (Willington Durham)
Margaret Jane Crine 1 (Willington Durham)
John Heegan 40 (Boader)
Daniel Scally 19 (Boarder)


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Apr 2013 10:45

Household transcription
1911 census

Address: Vicarage Lowick Beal

SMITH, Harry Butler Head Married15 years M 45 1866 Clerk In Holy Orders Vicar Lancashire Lancaster VIEW
SMITH, Anne Wife Married15 years F 42 1869 Yorkshire Leeds VIEW
SMITH, Harry Butler Son M 11 1900 Durham Durham VIEW
MOORE, Christiana Servant Single F 25 1886 Cook Domestic Durham Langley Moor VIEW
ISALEY, Margaret Servant Single F 29 1882 Housemaid Domestic Durham Leedgate VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 31153
Reference: RG14PN31153 RG78PN1783 RD568 SD1 ED8 SN21
Registration District: Glendale
Sub District: Ford
Enumeration District: 8
Parish: Lowick
Address: Vicarage Lowick Beal
County: Northumberland

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Apr 2013 10:30

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Rose E Cryan
Name: Rose E Cryan
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1866
Registration district: Durham
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 326

??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Rose Ellen Cryan
Name: Rose Ellen Cryan
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1879
Age at Death: 12
Registration district: Durham
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 176

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Apr 2013 10:23

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: CRYAN, Thomas
Address: 11 Hutton Terrace Willington Durham

MIDDLEMAS, Joseph Head Married M 67 1844 Check Weighman Colliery Above Ground Craghead Durham VIEW
MIDDLEMAS, Isabela Wife Married48 years F 66 1845 Spital Tongues Durham VIEW
CRYAN, Thomas Boarder Single M 36 1875 Coal Miner Hewer Willington Durham VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 29941
Reference: RG14PN29941 RG78PN1732 RD551 SD1 ED19 SN62
Registration District: Durham
Sub District: Brandon
Enumeration District: 19
Parish: Willington
Address: 11 Hutton Terrace Willington Durham
County: Durham

Vicci

Vicci Report 5 Apr 2013 01:22

Patrick Cryan died 1899 age 65

can't find death of Elizaebth 1881-1891

Joseph Cryan died 1893 age 20


Thomas Cryan still in Willington in 1901

Vicci

Vicci Report 5 Apr 2013 01:14

so it appears the Cryon's came from Longford Ireland

Vicci

Vicci Report 5 Apr 2013 01:12

1891
CRYON, Patrick Head Widower M 59 1832 Mason Labourer
Langford, Longford
CRYON, Joseph Son Single M 19 1872 Coal Miner
Willington, Durham
CRYON, Thomas Son Single M 15 1876 Coal Miner
Willington, Durham
FORD, Margaret J Servant Single F 23 1868 General Servant Domestic
Willington, Durham
FORD, Robert Son M 4 1887
Crook, Durham

Piece: 4102

Folio: 96

Page: 21

Registration District: Durham

Civil Parish: Willington

Municipal Borough:

Address: 8, Burn Place, Willington

County: Durham

Vicci

Vicci Report 5 Apr 2013 01:10

Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
CRYAN Joseph Durham 10a 440
Births Dec 1875 (>99%)
CRYAN Thomas Durham 10a 383
Births Dec 1876 (>99%)
CRYAN Peter Sunderland 10a 682

1881 mistranscribed

CROSIE, Patrick Head Married M 56 1825 Labourer
Ireland VIEW
CROSIE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 53 1828
Ireland VIEW
CROSIE, Joseph Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Willington, Durham VIEW
CROSIE, Thomas Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Willington, Durham VIEW

Piece: 4959

Folio: 95

Page: 15

Registration District: Durham

Civil Parish: Willington

Municipal Borough:

Address: 8, Burn Place, Willington

County: Durham

Vicci

Vicci Report 5 Apr 2013 00:41

elizabeth cryan b. 1853 Yorkshire married Matthew Dover in 1877

Vicci

Vicci Report 5 Apr 2013 00:35

looks like

cryan children
patrick
rose ellen
bridget
died prior to 1881

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Apr 2013 00:19

Struggling to find the family in the 1881 census.

Will check back tomorrow.

Vicci

Vicci Report 5 Apr 2013 00:09

looks like florence moore died 1894

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Apr 2013 23:38

A great find Vicci!


1901 England Census
about Christiana Moore
Name: Christiana Moore
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: John Moore
Mother's Name: Margt Jane Moore
Gender: Female
Where born: Langley Moor, Durham, England

Civil parish: Brandon and Byshottles
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 179
Piece: 4677
Folio: 172
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
John Moore 69
John Moore 33 (Son)
Margt Jane Moore 34 (Daughter in Law)
Christiana Moore 14


Vicci

Vicci Report 4 Apr 2013 23:02

1871
Name: Margaret J Cryan
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Patrick Cryan
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Cryan
Gender: Female
Where born: Wellington, Durham, England
Civil parish: Willington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Household schedule number: 122
Piece: 4965
Folio: 131
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick Cryan 49
Elizabeth Cryan 40
Elizabeth Cryan 18
Bridget Cryan 15
Mary Ann Cryan 13
Margaret J Cryan 6
Rose E Cryan 4
Patrick Crisan 1
John Mc Geeny 35
James McDonald 36
Patrick Lambe 34
Peter Lambe 27

Vicci

Vicci Report 4 Apr 2013 22:48

note from above previous post

1871 Census Durham Margaret J. O'Ryan [Cryan] abt 1865 1871 Willington

Vicci

Vicci Report 4 Apr 2013 22:39

1891
I wonder if this is her...note marriage of margaret jane cryon to John Moore in 1886..so mother may have remarried

Name: Elizabeth M Moore
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Moore
Mother's Name: Margaret J Moore
Gender: Female
Where born: Brandon, Durham, England

Civil parish: Brandon
Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4097
Folio: 17
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
John Moore 26
Margaret J Moore 27
Elizabeth M Moore 5
Christena Moore 4
Florence Moore 10/12


Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)

CRYON Margaret Jane Durham 10a 451
MOORE John Durham 10a 451