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Please help me try and locate these two Thomsons in the family.

John Thomson was born 14/05/1885 in Larkhall to George Thomson and Mary Scott. He married Jeanie (Jane) Orr on 15/06/1913 in Dalserf in Scotland.
I can't find any information regarding them after this date.

George Smail Thomson was born 21/10/1894 in Larkhall to George Thomson and Maggie (Margaret) Smail. I can't find any information about a marriage or death.

His father George Thomson, born 17/12/1870, emigrated to Canada in 1925, sailing from Glasgow to Montreal, arriving 11/07/1925.

He travelled between Canada and New York state at least 3 times, 25/05/1931, 24/10/1940 and 24/10/1947 but I can't find anything for him after that.

Any help is much appreciated

The one who "travelled between Canada and New York state at least 3 times, 25/05/1931, 24/10/1940 and 24/10/1947" -

I'm assuming that's the father, George Thomson?

Have you found George Smail Thomson on 1901 or 1911 census?

For our info:


1901 Scotland Census about George S Thomson
Name: George S Thomson
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: George Thomson
Mother's Name: Maggie Thomson
Gender: Male
Where born: Larkhall, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 638/1
Registration District: Larkhall
Civil Parish: Dalserf
Town: Larkhall
County: Lanarkshire
Address: New St Gala Ctge (2)
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 3
Household Schedule Number: 170
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_258
Household Members:
Name Age
George Thomson 30
Maggie Thomson 26
George S Thomson 6

I found George S Thomson on the 1911 census, he is living at Gala Cottage with his father George, mother Maggie and sister Elizabeth

He's also in Larkhall with his parents and sister Elizabeth in 1911, working as an ironmonger's shop assistant.
(Parents married 17 years; 3 children, 2 living.)

Trouble is, George Thomson, without the middle name, is such a common name, when searching for a marriage or death.

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UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about George Smail Thomson
Name: George Smail Thomson
Birth Place: Larkhall, Lanarkshire
Death Date: 21 Mar 1918
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Leigh, Edinburgh
Rank: Private
Regiment: Northumberland Fusiliers
Battalion: 25th Battalion (Tyneside Irish)
Number: 59300
Type of Casualty: Died
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: Formerly 05640, A.O.C.

Private George Smail Thomson
Birth: unknown
Death: Mar. 21, 1918

Inscription:
Northumberland Fusiliers

Note: 59300

Burial:
Faubourg-d'Amiens Cemetery
Arras
Departement du Pas-de-Calais
Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
Plot: Bay 2 and 3.

Created by: International Wargraves ...
Record added: Oct 09, 2006
Find A Grave Memorial# 16106826

Ireland, Casualties of World War I, 1914-1918 about George Smail Thomson
Name: George Smail Thomson
Regiment: Northumbeland Fusiliers (Tyneside Irish), Formerly Army Ordnance Corps
Death Date: 21 Mar 1918
Death Place: France
Birth Place: Karkhall, Scotland

It was father George travelling between US and Canada. When he emigrated he was with wife and daughter, both called Margaret. Wife may have died between 1940 & 1947 crossings as he doesn't name her on the 1947 entry.

The George who arrived in Canada in 1925 was aged 54 with wife Margaret, 50 and 8 year old daughter Margaret. They're going to join son-in-law Rob;t Poat/Peat, 30a ashdale Ave., Toronto. They give name of relative at home as brother Alex Thomson, Charing Cross, Larkhall.

George Thomson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Age at enlistment: 22
Residence: Tala Cottage Avon St, Larkhall <<< could read Gala cottage
Document Year: 1916
Regimental Number: 40145
Regiment Name: Trade Test
Number of images: 35

He was not married when he enlisted

Thanks for finding out about George Smail Thomson

The Robert Peat listed married the daughter Elizabeth and both are buried in Canada, i found that out a few days ago.

Any further help is much appreciated

Possible death of Jeanie (Jane) Thomson nee Orr:

1953 THOMSON JANE ORR F 63 DALSERF AND LARKHALL /LANARK 638/00 0046

The military record I posted - the address is Gala Cottage, but I think it may be a different George as after looking through his record he appears to survive the war. Just ploughing through to see if he named any nok.

ADDED: I can't see mention of nok, but he was discharged to the reservists in 1920 - according to his record he was a skilled blacksmith.

Or, a less likely but still possible death for Jeanie (Jane):

1954 THOMSON JANE ORR F 67 TOWNHEAD GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/06 0837

re John Thomson born 1885

there are no deaths in Scotland of a John Thomson with mms Scott, 1913 - 1990, with birth year 1885 +/- 2/

There are 67 in Lanarkshire, without mms stipulated, all other search criteria the same.

Only one in Dalserf/Larkhall, so I expect this is Jeanie (Jane)'s husband:

1957 THOMSON JOHN WILSON M 73 DALSERF AND LARKHALL /LANARK 638/00 0071

I found this on the war graves Photographs project, apparently his mother and father resided in Toronto, I can't find an emigration for them before 1925.

21st March 1918. Age 23. Son of George and Margaret Thomson of "Bemersyde Haig Avenue, Birchcliff, Toronto, Canada.

Can't tell you if John & Jeanie (Jane) had children - not wiithout great expense!

There were 137 Thomson births registered in Larkhall, 1913 - 1930.

John, I think the death of George Smail Thomson is not him - if you have found that his parents George & Margaret were living in Toronto. The image for your George & Margaret into Canada in 1925 states they have not lived in Canada before.

If the 1911 census still puts him at Gala Cottage, Larkhall, then the military record I found would be your George I think. Also, why would he be in the Tyneside Irish?

1911 he was still at Gala Cottage, unless the inscription was done after they had moved to Canada, just a thought tho