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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Apr 2022 13:20

There is no record of anyone named Prouse (or variants) in Ashbury, Devon on 1851 census

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Apr 2022 12:59

Deaths Jun 1880 (>99%)
Prouse Edwin William 22 Swansea 11a 401

Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%)
EVANS John Swansea 11a 874
Prouse Dosha Jane Swansea 11a 874


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
38, Bathurst Street, Swansea (Town), Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
John Evans Head Married Male 33 1848 Railway engineman Carmarthenshire, Wales
Dosha Evans Wife Married Female 22 1859 - Folly Gate, Devon, England
Thomas J Evans Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
Jonathan Evans - Single Male 1 1880 - Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
Osmond Duck Lodger Single Male 20 1861 Railway signalman Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales

Just passing the time waiting in for a delivery on a chilly day.....................

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Apr 2022 12:45

PROUSE, ANN GALE
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in OKEHAMPTON Volume 10 Page 185

PROWSE, EMMA MARIA GALE
GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in OKEHAMPTON Volume 10 Page 176

PROUSE, EDMUND WILLIAM GALE
GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in OKEHAMPTON Volume 05B Page 355

PROUSE, DOSHA JANE GALE
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in OKEHAMPTON Volume 05B Page 338

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Stewerd Stone, Inwardleigh, Okehampton, Devon, England
Thomas Prouse Head Married Male 25 1826 Agriculturer labourer Inwardleigh, Devon, England
Mary Ann Prouse Wife Married Female 25 1826 - Inwardleigh, Devon, England
Mary Ann Prouse Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Inwardleigh, Devon, England

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Millbrook, Inwardleigh, Okehampton, Devon, England
Thomas Prowse Head Married Male 35 1826 Agricultural labourer Not Known
Maryann Prowse Wife Married Female 35 1826 Labourer wife Inwardleigh, Devon, England
Ann Prowse Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1847 - Inwardleigh, Devon, England
Emma Prowse Daughter Unmarried Female 9 1852 - Inwardleigh, Devon, England
Tryphena Prowse Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1854 - Jersey, Channel Islands
Thomas Prowse Son Unmarried Male 6 1855 - Jersey
Albert Prowse Son Unmarried Male 6 1855 - Jersey,
Edward Prowse Son Unmarried Male 3 1858 - Inwardleigh, Devon, England
Dosha Prowse Daughter Unmarried Female 1 1860 - Inwardleigh, Devon, England

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cottage, Inwardleigh, Okehampton, Devon, England
Thomas Prouse Head - Male 47 1824 - Devon, England
Mary Ann Prouse Wife - Female 45 1826 - Devon, England
Eli Prouse Son - Male 9 1862 - Devon, England
Triffinia Prouse Daughter - Female 18 1853 - Channel Islands, England
Jane Prouse Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Devon, England



Name: Trephina Ellen Prouse
Birth Date: 7 Sep 1853
Baptism Date: 18 Nov 1854
Baptism Place: St Helier, Jersey
Father: Thomas Prouse
Mother: Mary Ann Gales

Name: Albert - Daniel Prouse
Birth Date: 13 Mar 1855
Baptism Date: 8 Apr 1855
Baptism Place: St Helier, Jersey
Father: Thomas Prouse
Mother: Mary - Ann Gale

Name: Thomas - Sammuel Prouse
Birth Date: 13 Mar 1855
Baptism Date: 8 Apr 1855
Baptism Place: St Helier, Jersey
Father: Thomas Prouse
Mother: Mary Ann Gale

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Apr 2022 10:44

Just mulling over this thread -

On 5 Jan 2014 George suggested that Thomas and Mary Ann Prouse could be Samuel's parents.

However, that can't be the case, as they married in 1846:

Mary Ann Gale
in the Devon, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1920
Name: Mary Ann Gale
Marriage Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: Jul 1846
Marriage Place: Inwardleigh, Devon, England
Residence Date: Abt 1846
Residence Place: Folly
Religion: Anglican
Father: Chas Gale
Spouse: Thomas Prouse

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Apr 2022 23:06

Welcome to the boards Dave.

8 years down the line, Elaine is probably not looking for replies.

Try clicking on her name (In green) to send her a Personal message via Genes. They can let her know a message is in the system if she still has the same email address which she registered with them.

Hopefully she will get your message and be in a position to reply.

dave

dave Report 27 Apr 2022 22:45

I have been trying to contact you a s I am a prouse and might have answers

Elaine

Elaine Report 5 Jan 2014 12:20

Thanks George, anything is a possibility with this chap, his marriage cert states father unknown, so I'm assuming his mother unmarried, some time ago, his Gt Grandaughter did say to my cousin that she believed he was illegitimate but we have never been able to prove it, or otherwise. The above couple could be relatives of his mother of course

George

George Report 5 Jan 2014 10:09

In 1846 a Thomas Prouse b1826c married Mary Ann Gale b1826c. According to the 1851 census they and their daughter Mary Ann b1847 are living in Inwardleigh which is not too far from Ashbury. It is possible that Thomas and Mary Ann were the parents of Samuel (Edward).
Regards,
George Morland

Elaine

Elaine Report 4 Jan 2014 15:08

Thanks for the 1851 census transcript, it offers little clues doesnt it, Ellen Burridge could be the mother I suppose, but generally the children took the same surname as the mother when born out of wedlock, in 1861 Ellen is a servant in Paddington, London and Edward is in Chagford Okehampton.

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Jan 2014 14:14

This is the complete transcription for the 1850 baptism posted above:

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record

Forename(s): Samuel
Surname: Prouse

Year: 1850 Month: Jun Day: 23

Father's Forename: William
Mother's Forename: Elizabeth

Birth Day: 6
Birth Month: May
Birth Year:

Dedication: Ermington
Place: Plymouth
County: Devon
Page: 170
Archive Ref: 904/6
Notes:
Record source: Baptism Register - Transcripts
Data provider: Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Collection

There's also an 1849 record, parents William & Ann

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Jan 2014 13:37

1851 England Census about Edward S Prowse
Name: Edward S Prowse
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Visitor
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: N
Civil Parish: North Tawton
Town: North Tawton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Address 6 Exeter Street
Registration District: Okehampton
Sub-registration District: Bratton Clovelly
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 6
Piece: 1885
Folio: 635
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Evans 56 - Head, married, Ag Lab born Bondleigh, Devon
Christiani Evans 33 - wife, b Week St Mary, Cornwall
Elizabeth Evans 12 - daughter b North Tawton
Samuel Evans 8 - do b North Tawton
William Evans 3 - son b North Tawtom
Edward S Prowse 2 - visitor b unknown
Ellen Burridge 19 - Lodger, unknown marital status, Worsted Spinner b Crediton Devon

Elaine

Elaine Report 4 Jan 2014 12:32

The witnesses on the the 1st MC are James and Mary Ann Tenby they dont appear to have any connection, they were husband and wife and they lived in St Cleer in 1871, which is were Mary Ann Carter came from, it may be a relative of Mary she was only 17 at the time of her marriage.

Elaine

Elaine Report 4 Jan 2014 12:06

Thank you very much for the replies

Thank you for the 1871 census, that fits, its obviously mistranscribed, this links with Mary Ann Carter, she was born in Cornwall, Mary's father Richard moved up to Skinningrove to work in the mines as well, perhaps this was how they met.

I have not found him on the 1851 census, there is a record for an Edward Prouse

Name: Edward S Prowse
Age: 2
Gender: Male
Birthplace: N K
Relationship to Head of Household: Visitor
Schedule Type: Household

I dont have access to view the record though.

The Prouse family pages under construction are mine, I started the website many moons ago, I havent updated it for some time due to other commitments, I have just recommenced researching after a long break.

I have much information on Samuels children, they are:
Mary Elizabeth 1874-1955
Samuel Richard 1876-1953
Albert William 1978-1948
Emma Jane 1880-1940
Eli Joseph 1882-1970
Edmund Thomas 1884-1958 (my gt-grandfather)
Minnie 1886-1962
Lily 1889-1891
Louie 1891-1976
Lily 1893-1979
Alfred 1896-1971
Mabel 1899-1908
Joe 1901-1990

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 4 Jan 2014 11:40

Name: Mary Ann Carter
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1856
Event Place: Liskeard, Cornwall, England
County: Cornwall
Page: 98
Volume: 5
Affiliate Line Number: 20
Registration Quarter: 2
One of these people is probably the spouse:
Name: Jane Gist
Name: Edward Hendy
Name: Joseph Rounsefell

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 4 Jan 2014 11:37

On the 1911 census he is in Cornwall where his wife came from.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 4 Jan 2014 11:36

The Prouse family pages are still under construction.

My Gt-Gt-Grandfather was Samuel Prouse (b: about 1850 in Ashbury, Devon) he married Mary Ann Carker (b: about 1857, Liskard, Cornwall) on 5th February, 1873 in Brotton, North Yorkshire.

Although my branch of this family stayed in the Yorkshire area, there are many references to Devon & Cornwall.

Family Pages
www.thevillage.karoo.net/profile.html Cached
These records are mainly written in Latin, ... this data is taken from Parish Records which where started in 1537. ... about 1850 in Ashbury, Devon) ...

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 4 Jan 2014 11:34

on Ancestry

View Record
Samuel Rowse
[Samuel Prouse] ? abt 1849 Ashbury , Devon, England relation city, Cornwall

Devon Census & County Records - Census Archives: UK & Ireland ...
www.census-archives.co.uk/england/Devon.htm Cached
Devon Census and County Genealogy Records. Devon is a county of England, reaching from the Bristol to the English Channel, and bounded by Cornwall ...

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 4 Jan 2014 11:30


1871 England Census about Samuel Rowse
Name: Samuel Rowse
[Samuel Prouse]
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashbury, Devon, England
Civil Parish: St Teath
Town: Pengelly
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration District: Camelford
Sub-registration District: Camelford
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household Schedule Number: 79
Piece: 2221
Folio: 45
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
George Walles 50
Fanny Walles 52
Anne Lobb 6
William Joliffe 22
Samuel Rowse 22<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 4 Jan 2014 11:27

GENUKI/Devon: Ashbury - Genealogy
genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Ashbury Cached
"ASHBURY parish, 5 miles S.W. of Hatherleigh, has only 65 souls ... but Bishop's Transcripts going back to 1610 are held in the Devon Record Office.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 4 Jan 2014 11:25

Name: Joe Prouse
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 31 Oct 1901
Christening Place: New Marske, Yorks, ENG
Birth Date: 28 Sep 1901
Birthplace: Marske (near Guisbrough), York, England
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Samuel Prouse
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C16406-1
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1546292
Reference ID: item 8 p 56