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Looking for Alexander Holliday born at 4. Temperley Place, Hexham Northumberland 25 June 1888 he was educated at Carlisle Grammar School where he was when the 1901 census was taken.

He appears to have joined the Merchant Navy as an apprentice 31 October 1905 at the age of 17 he is reported to stayed there until 1909, after that searches of all records show nothing.

It was said many years ago that he had left the family home after getting involved with a village girl from Corbridge where the family lived from 1894 onwards, in the Carlisle Grammar School book of 1901 it notes that Alexander had joined at the spring term but had left in July and reportedly had gone to America.

David Walton.

There's this man on a crew list - he's a waiter on the ship:

Alex Holliday

in the New Orleans, Passenger Lists, 1813-1963
Name: Alex Holliday
Arrival Date: 21 Mar 1910
Port of Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana
Birth Date: abt 1890
Age: 20
Port of Departure: Decas
Ship Name: Parismina

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

Temperley Place, Hencotes Street, Hexham, Northumberland, England


Joseph Holliday Head Married Male 43 1848 Coach Man Haydon Bridge, Northumberland, England
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Mary Holliday Wife Married Female 43 1848 - Lowick, Northumberland, England
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Alice Holliday Daughter Single Female 15 1876 Dressmakers Apprentice Hexham, Northumberland, England
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Mary A Holliday Daughter - Female 13 1878 - Hexham, Northumberland, England
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George A Holliday Son - Male 11 1880 - Hexham, Northumberland, England
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John Holliday Son - Male 9 1882 - Hexham, Northumberland, England
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Hannah L Holliday Daughter - Female 7 1884 - Hexham, Northumberland, England
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Florence Holliday Daughter - Female 5 1886 - Hexham, Northumberland, England
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Alexander Holliday Son - Male 2 1889 - Hexham, Northumberland,

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription


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First name(s)
Alexander

Last name
Holliday

Relationship
Pupil

Marital status
Single

Gender
Male

Age
13

Birth year
1888

Occupation pupil
-

Birth town
Corbridge

Birth town as transcribed
CORBRIDGE

Birth county
Northumberland

Birth county as transcribed
NORTHUMBERland

Street
Strands Road

Town
-

Parish
Carlisle Rickergate

City
-

Country
England

County
Cumberland

Municipal ward
Rickergate

Registration district
Carlisle

Archive reference
RG13

Piece number
4867

Folio
120

Page
48

This one's a soldier in Canada - just a long shot!

Alec Holliday

in the 1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta
Name: Alec Holliday
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 28
Est. Birth Year: 1888
Birthplace: England
Year of Immigration: 1912
Home in 1916: 01, Battleford, Saskatchewan
Address: 35, 16, 3, Bushville
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Sub District Desc.: Townships 35, 36, 37 and 38, ranges 16 and 17, W. 3. M.
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Peters 49
Agnes Peters 48
Tina Peters 15
Albert Peters 13
William Peters 11
Alec Holliday 28

Just looking at the Carlisle Grammar School register.

If he left July 1901 and went to America then as he was 13 it would seem logical that the family went. Would he really have gone on his own at that age?

In case it's useful, birth date 25 June 1888.

Hi I have all those links except the waiter on the ship, I have also gone through the local newspaper from 1901-1912 but nothing. I also have a copy of his Father's obituary in December 1935 and there is no mention of him.

David ................

just so you know, the helpers tend to post information as they find it, eg a census or two, as that helps us all to get our heads round the details of this man.

You've been working on him for years, we're coming to it blind.

So think of the work duplicated as being help for US

Maybe relevant?

A Holliday
in the Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919

Name: A Holliday
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birth Place: Liverpool
Event Date: 5 Apr. 1909
Port of Registry: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ship Name: Idomeneus
Official Number: 110555
Reference Number: 387CRE/433

Address given:- 191 Boaler Street
Capacity:- AB (An able seaman (AB) is an unlicensed member of the deck department of a merchant ship.)

http://www.albertagenealogy-research.ca/Data/Papers/1990-1994C/CalgaryDeathsPage341.html

(HOLLIDAY, Alexander Frederick 1990. Age 102)


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=holliday&GSiman=1&GScid=2130381&GRid=139858285&

(perhaps relates to Canada one)

Chris :)


(Boaler Street one perhaps)

Births Mar 1886 (>99%)
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HOLLIDAY Alexander W.Derby 8b 653


(Reference to 1905)

All UK, Apprentices Indentured in Merchant Navy, 1824-1910 (Ancestry)

(another below also, New Orleans (Ancestry) Steward)

A Holliday abt 1889 23 Mar 1910 Colon (Ship Name) Abangarez


Walter Runciman info. on google, and Cargo Ship "Westmoor" 112736


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_boat_(ship) (Abangarez)


http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/2441.html

(Parismina)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company

Chris :)

(did he finish his apprenticeship?...or perhaps went to America, and found work on above)

Thanks Chris, he was due according to records due to finish his apprenticeship in April 1909.

If he was due to finish his apprenticeship in April 1909, then my posting looks like it could very well be your man as event date is 5 April 1909 and this was the date he is noted as being finished his service on the ship Idomeneus.
Doesn't help find him afterwards but does give you a little more info on him.

This looks like the same man in 1913.



Alexander Halliday

in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Alexander Halliday
Arrival Date: Aug 1913
Port of Arrival: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Ship Name: Canadian Pacific Railroad
Residence Country: Canada
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1886
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 4


Last permanent address: Vancouver.
Destination: Australia
Occupation: Sailor
NOK: His sister, Mrs W Aiken (?), 166 Boaler, Liverpool. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Same one again ??? But also in 1913:


Alexander Halliday

in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Alexander Halliday
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Birth Year: abt 1886
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 2 Aug 1913
Vessel: Empress of Russia
Port of Arrival: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan

Occupation: Seaman
Destination: San Francisco

Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919 (Ancestry)

(another for A. Holliday 1907 'Matador', same address, 191, Boaler St.)

Chris :)

Marriage for sister perhaps?

Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
xxxx Aiken William Stewart R W. Derby 8b 928
Bamber Sarah Jane W. Derby 8b 928
xxxx Holliday Elizabeth West Derby 8b 928
Randles Richard W. Derby 8b 928


.............and her in 1911:-

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Elizabeth Aiken Head Married Female Dressmaker 37 1874 Cumberland Workington Transcription
Lilian Aiken Daughter - Female - 9 1902 Lancashire Liverpool Transcription
William Aiken Son - Male - 0 1911 Lancashire Liverpool Transcription
Robert Holliday Brother Single Male Assurance Clerk 28 1883 Lancashire Liverpool

1911 (Find My Past)
Elizabeth Aiken Head Married Female Dressmaker 37 1874 Cumberland Workington
Lilian Aiken Daughter - Female - 9 1902 Lancashire Liverpool
William Aiken Son - Male - 0 1911 Lancashire Liverpool
Robert Holliday Brother Single Male Assurance Clerk 28 1883 Lancashire Liverpool
14 Gilroy Road Boaler St Liverpool, West Derby, Lancashire

(possibly above)

Chris :)

Births Mar 1886 (>99%)
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HOLLIDAY Alexander W.Derby 8b 653


(not sure on below though, confusing, perhaps he wasn't 'Naval' at all!)

Births Sep 1888 (>99%)
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HOLLIDAY Alexander Hexham 10b 304

Ooops sorry Chris Ho, but great minds and all that. :-)

My Alexander was born 25 June 1888 in Hexham, Northumberland so his certificate no is 10b 304